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Two Watches That Look Very Much The Same but Are So Different ;)

  1. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur May 27, 2014

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    Just come back from a fishing trip and found these two watches in my mailbox. Linen and sunburst dials aside. What big difference can you tell? ;)
     
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  2. timeismoney May 27, 2014

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    The date magnifier?
     
  3. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member May 27, 2014

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    Seconds hand not original in the linen dial watch?
     
  4. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member May 27, 2014

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    Some minor differences:

    1. The first watch has tritium on both the dial and hands, but the dots on the dial are not uniform. This dial might have been relumed at some point. The second watch has tritium on the dial only, if at all. This doesn't make any sense, so is the second watch is a redial?

    2. The first watch has no magnifier and I think the crystal is signed. The second watch has a magnifier, but I can't see a logo on the crystal.

    3. Seconds hands are slightly different. The one on the second watch doesn't look right to me.

    Knowing you, these watches are parts donors only. ;)
    gatorcpa
     
  5. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur May 27, 2014

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    Thanks for your comments. But those are only minor differences. The second hand on the linen dial watch is generic, not Omega original. The lume dots on the first one are original, the linen dial is original, too. (lume slots on dial and dirty lume on hands are still there)

    Another shot from the back will help you to see that Big difference ;)
     
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  6. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member May 27, 2014

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    Which is why it can be very dangerous to buy watches just from photos on the internet. I could not see the hallmarks from the front of the watch. Also, I was unsure about the condition of the lume on either of them.

    Two nice pieces, Hoi! :thumbsup:
    gatorcpa
     
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  7. ulackfocus May 27, 2014

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    Holy shee-yat Hoi - white gold! :eek: :thumbsup:

    For those of you who don't know, you can spot a white gold Seamaster from that period even without seeing the hallmarks by the word WATERPROOF inside the medallion instead of underneath it. Take a look at Mike's / MSNWatch's avatar to see the same thing for a caliber 751 Sparkle 168.023 in white gold.
     
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  8. timeismoney May 27, 2014

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    Cha-ching!! Learn something new every other thread. Thanks for the lesson, Dennis.
     
  9. Hvacman May 27, 2014

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    Nice Hoi!
    i see why the white gold is so rare. Hard for anyone to tell the difference!
    is there an interesting story behind the discovery?
     
  10. Dablitzer May 28, 2014

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    Cool pair...interesting fact about the Waterproof position...too.
     
  11. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur May 28, 2014

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    The only interesting story about that 18k WG De Ville is I bought it quite cheap, wired the money to Italy then waited for one month.

    Maybe that's the only way to buy cool stuffs at low prices from eBay these days.
     
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  12. Apa May 28, 2014

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    So is this ss or wg? 20140528_185930.jpg 20140528_185855.jpg
     
  13. John R Smith May 28, 2014

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    No hallmarks . . .
     
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  14. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member May 28, 2014

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    Contrary to Dennis's post above, I believe that the only way to tell the metal content on these is to have the case opened up.

    I believe that the "Waterproof" marking is more related to the contractor that manufactured the case, than the metal content. Some contractors only made gold cases for certain styles, so all gold cases for these might have slightly different logos.

    While Hoi's example is hallmarked, we don't know from the photos if it is 14K or 18K without seeing the fineness engravings on the inside of the case.

    gatorcpa
     
  15. fjf May 28, 2014

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    Dang!. Now that I was half-blind after looking through 10000 medallions in ebay auctions...and almost bought 100 of them...
     
  16. Apa May 28, 2014

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    Yes it is ss, so this rule is busted...
     
  17. cristos71 May 28, 2014

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    Nice De Ville! :)

    I really want to try to find a white gold Omega. In fact I have been looking for years for the right one. I´m not too fussed what it is as long as the condition is good and it´s not some little 32mm job.

    Difficult to find and especially difficult to find from a seller who doesn´t want to extract every last drop of white gold premium :eek:
     
  18. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member May 28, 2014

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    The rule is true for the day date golden seamasters. Don't think you can apply it to other models.
     
  19. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member May 28, 2014

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    Agreed, and also for the date only Seamasters with the same case.
    gatorcpa
     
  20. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur May 28, 2014

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    Most of Norman Morris cases were in 14K and stamped as such between lugs (no hallmark outside) and on the dials you see some bling bling, too. I always prefer a Swiss case and this one is a really nice find and I am very happy with it.
     
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