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  1. Bryan Jun 4, 2018

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    If a 25-year-old Speedmaster with a tritium dial glows brightly after being exposed to a light source, does that mean the hands and markers have been painted with some kind of luminova? Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought tritium is self-illuminating, which only lasts for a few decades, and is not charged at all by light.
     
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  2. Dan S Jun 4, 2018

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    I believe that tritium is the "power source" and the compound that emits light is a phosphor. After the tritium has aged sufficiently (i.e. experienced significant radioactive decay), it doesn't power the phosphor enough to cause it to glow continuously. However, I believe that some phosphors may glow briefly after being charged by a strong light source. If it were luminova, it would probably glow for quite a while after being exposed to light. I think that others on the forum will probably be able to give you detailed guidelines about how long these phosphors will glow after being charged by visible or UV light.
     
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  3. BenBagbag Jun 4, 2018

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    It depends how long. By 25 years, I'd expect it to charge for a few seconds and quickly lose a large % of the light it first emitted and only faintly glow for a little while longer. Like maybe for 60 more seconds.
     
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  4. wsfarrell Jun 4, 2018

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    The word "brightly" is subjective. How long it glows is less subjective. Old tritium exposed to a really bright light in a really dark closet can glow "brightly" at first, but will fade significantly within a minute. After 5 minutes, the glow will be pretty much gone. A luminova dial will be easily readable an hour later---sometimes overnight.
     
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  5. TDBK Jun 4, 2018

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    The phosphor also makes the lume look whiter when illuminated with sunlight. The UV activates the phosphor and it glows white.
     
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  6. dr1v3thru Jun 4, 2018

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    Great question! I was wondering the same thing with my 3590.50 that I recently got. Thanks for the answers everyone!
     
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  7. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 4, 2018

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    Generally tritium is useless after 30 seconds
     
  8. mac_omega Jun 5, 2018

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    and to add for correctness: it is not phosphor but zinc sulfide which is activated by tritium
     
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  9. padders Oooo subtitles! Jun 5, 2018

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    Umm it is a phosphor in that it is a substance which glows irrespective of chemical makeup. It isn’t Phosphorus, but Zinc Sulphide is still a phosphor, As is Strontium Aluminate.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphor
     
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  10. Seaborg Jun 5, 2018

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  11. Bryan Jun 6, 2018

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    It does fade quickly in the first minute and is almost completely gone after about six or seven minutes.
     
  12. Bryan Jun 6, 2018

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    I’m not really looking for good lume. I have dive watches for that. I just like the aged look and warm patina that tritium develops over the years.
     
  13. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 6, 2018

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    It’s how you tell which it is. As someone’s unsure how to tell.
     
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  14. Bryan Jun 6, 2018

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    Sorry, I misunderstood. I’m still wondering though if a cheap luminova would lose its lume at the same rate because I have a very inexpensive beater watch that behaves the same way.
     
  15. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 6, 2018

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    No it will glow at a useable level for a few minutes at a minimum.
     
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  16. Seaborg Jun 6, 2018

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    Agree.
     
  17. rcs914 Jun 6, 2018

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  18. dr1v3thru Jun 6, 2018

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    Here's my Speedy which got me wondering the same thing. I didn't expect the hour markers to glow but they do glow a little after going under a flashlight and they fade faster than the hands do. I was just surprised that the hour markers glowed at all.

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  19. Bryan Jun 7, 2018

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    I like your demonstration so much that I did the same. The first photo was taken after shining a UV light on the dial. The second photo was taken 30 seconds later. The third photo was after a minute. Based on this, the hands and markers appear to be tritium since they diminish quickly and evenly. I’m just surprised there are no signs of aging other than a slight yellowing in color.
     
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  20. Bryan Jun 7, 2018

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    Here it is in bright sunlight:
     
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