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  1. ToniH. Apr 6, 2019

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    Hello,

    I am thinking about buying this Longines. Just wondered if someone more knowable could take a look. For me it looks quite ok. The crown must be newer one but are there anything else that I'm missing? The case is beautiful.. :)

    Thank you!

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  2. Radiumpassion Apr 6, 2019

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    This is from around 1940, looks ok apart from the dirty and corroded movement.

    And the heavy pitting on the case.
     
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  3. ToniH. Apr 6, 2019

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    Should I consider it as a deal breaker? The movement and the pitting I mean.
     
  4. Radiumpassion Apr 6, 2019

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    That's for you to decide. Let's have some other members opinion too:)
     
  5. durri70 Apr 6, 2019

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    Looks very nice I guess is 33 or 34 mm
    If price is right for you take it
     
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  6. ToniH. Apr 6, 2019

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    Thanks. It’s actually 35mm which is nice. The price seemed really reasonable.
     
  7. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Apr 7, 2019

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    What does the back of the case look like?

    I’d be a bit worried about the dial, the logo looks close enough but the spaces and thickness of some letters are more uneven than on the logo picture which if I’m not mistaken you reposted from @DirtyDozen12. (credit to him for his work, research, and pics).

    Also, the subdial edges and somewhat inconsistent subdial indexes would worry me if it were for me.
    Perhaps you need to get a very crisp and clear picture of the subdial. (Like below- I’ve enlarged your pic).

    Finally I’d also be worried about the discrepancy between the dial condition (lightly patinated) and condition of the movement and case (heavily aged), which is also a warning sign.

    If the dial is refinished and you love it nonetheless, you could still buy it realizing the watch is only worth the sum of its parts.

    Best regards
     
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  8. ToniH. Apr 7, 2019

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    Thanks for lending your expertise. Heres couple of more pictures.

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  9. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Apr 7, 2019

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  10. cristos71 Apr 7, 2019

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    I'm no Longines expert but the hour and minute hands look long to me. The minute hand extends over the edge of the minute track.
     
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  11. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Apr 7, 2019

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    Definitely refinished - look how sloppy and inconsistent those indexes are. Must have been done a long time ago, hence the « ancient » look.
     
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  12. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Apr 7, 2019

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    I also think that the dial has been refinished and that the hour/minute hands look odd. Below is a signature from a Longines that was produced a couple of years after the one in question. Note the level of precision in the printing. Further below is a 35 mm Longines with a very similar case. Note the central part of the minute hand, as well as the correct crown.
    This is an important point, especially for Longines from this era.
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  13. ToniH. Apr 7, 2019

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    Thank you all! It would have been quite cheap, 680€. But as always when its too good to be tru it normally is. But I learned a bunch from this so maybe someday I know how to school others. :)
     
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  14. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Apr 7, 2019

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    That would have been reasonable if the dial were original- but outrageously overpriced for a redial.
     
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  15. bimbim1207 Apr 10, 2019

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    for 680EUR it's too high for a redial. Skip.
     
  16. Jerseyhammer May 7, 2019

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    If you get it cleaned and serviced it’s a nice watch
     
  17. Jerseyhammer May 7, 2019

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    Agreed
     
  18. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept May 13, 2019

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    Well, someone liked it — although who knows how much he paid for it. He’s got a number of very nice Longines watches so he clearly went for the case design. As i recall @gatorcpa @cicindela put it, you can buy a redial if you really know what you’re doing.
     
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  19. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member May 13, 2019

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    I’m not convinced that this particular dial is a redial. I think it is possible that the seconds hand is a replacement and that is why it looks a bit too long.
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  20. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept May 13, 2019

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    Did you read the above comments on the subdial and the discrepancy between the condition of the movement and the condition of the dial?
    To me they were clear indications of a redial.
    Best regards
     
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