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Thoughts on this Rolex Explorer 216570?

  1. kelev_ra Jun 18, 2019

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    Hey there,
    If one would have asked me about my thoughts on the Rolex Explorer II about a year ago I would have said:
    It is one of the ugliest watches Rolex ever made...
    BUT:
    Sometimes Things change - and you don’t even know why.... :)

    Well: I got an offer about trading a Sub for this 216570 - Box and Papers (which Seem correct) included.
    As I Heard some Horrorstorys (well we all have) about China Fakes with correct Paperwork I just Wanted to ask the Pros here about their opinion on this Piece (Deal Will Be made Face to Face/the next RSC is far far away... Seller is a 60 year old man Who says he got it from a passed away relative/Watch should be from 2012 according to papers)?

    Thanks!!
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  2. CJpickup57 Jun 18, 2019

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    What Sub?
     
  3. kelev_ra Jun 19, 2019

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  4. jpjsavage Jun 19, 2019

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    Trading for a submariner? I'd be careful.
     
  5. kelev_ra Jun 19, 2019

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    Why?
     
  6. jpjsavage Jun 19, 2019

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    The values would not compare.
     
  7. kelev_ra Jun 19, 2019

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    If it is a 5digit no date Sub (fullset)?
    I get about 6.000 - 7.000 Euro peaks as it used to be a all-day-everyday-watch with Pretty much stretch - the 216570 should be just about the same imho.
    If it would be a fullset 6-digit-Sub I'd agree...
    Other opinions?
     
  8. jpjsavage Jun 19, 2019

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    I'd keep the submariner. That 216570 doesn't look in great condition.
     
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  9. kelev_ra Jun 19, 2019

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    Ok, I see. As mentioned, my Sub is not in great condition as well. Plus: I got two of them.
    So: If I still would consider a trade, what Price difference would you see between the two watches?
     
  10. alam Jun 19, 2019

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    based on your description of your Sub, I dare to say the value difference between these two watches is negligible. However, I'd be more excited to the trade (specially having two subs w/black dials) for the same EII but w/white dial. :coffee:
     
  11. kelev_ra Jun 19, 2019

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    Well I'd say my Sub is 6,5/10 - compared to the ExII which I would say is 7,5-8/10 (it's worn, but not polished etc.).
    Both being Fullsets with Papers/Box,...
    Maybe the Owner of the ExII would even be willing to pay upcash (Maybe some hundred €) - this I did not ask yet.

    Well, my Question above was, if the watch Looks legit - but all I got are answers comparing the market values of the watches… :)
    Still, thanks for keeping an eye on my purse ;)