I have seen this navy dialed Connie cal 712 before but not with roman numerals and these hands. I'm wondering about them both and curious on thoughts from others - thanks for any ideas!

 

Been looking for a blue or black dialed cal 712...

No thoughts on this one? I have scoured google searches and Desmond's essays on ultra thins 712. I can come across a navy dial with different markers and hands, and a silver dial with roman numerals - but nothing with roman numerals and these hands. I am thinking that these hands do not belong on this piece, or that there are more issues.

This is coming out of Japan, so I know there can be some variants for Japanese markets but still not sure.