Hi guys! I wanted to ask your opinion on these watches.

Here's the first. Have the hands been relumed? Seller is asking for US$ 2,800.



Here's the second one. Is it true that this is 1st generation and that it is rarer? Seller is asking for US$ 2100.00









Looking forward to your comments. Thanks guys!

 

I've never seen that date wheel on the second Sub, which leaves me highly skeptical. I also don't see a serial number on the caseback, which is odd. The second one also has a torn up dial and heavily polished case. I'd steer clear.

The first one has a legitimate dial/date wheel, but also has a polished case and re-lumed hands (as well as a lack of lume on the dial). I would pass on both. Quality over quantity.

 

Thanks for the advice!