Thoughts on the Authenticity of this Constellation.

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Jbill

·Nov 19, 2016

Hi, all. I would appreciate any thoughts on the authenticity of this Consrelation:

http://www.chrono24.com/en/omega/constellation----steel---cal-505---1950s--id5077953.htm

 

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efauser

·Nov 19, 2016

What do you think?

Edited: Nov 19, 2016

 

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Jbill

·Nov 19, 2016

I'm afraid I'm too much of a newbie to be much help beyond being able to say that the 505 movement does match up with the 2852 case.

Hard to tell about the dial from the pics, but From what I can see, it appears to pass Desmond's MOY test.

 

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efauser

·Nov 19, 2016

There's not much more to say, given the quality of the photos. I would ask for better photos.

 

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ulackfocus

·Nov 19, 2016

Redialed and relumed. Automatic pass.

 

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Jbill

·Nov 19, 2016

For future reference, what gives it away as being redialed and relumed?

 

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efauser

·Nov 19, 2016

Look at the lume dots, for one. I can't see shit on my laptop but you can see the markers don't appear to be lined up correctly.

 

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FullyWound

·Nov 19, 2016

U ulackfocus

Redialed and relumed. Automatic pass.

redialed relumed AND horribly over polished

best thing about this is the strap

Jbill

For future reference, what gives it away as being redialed and relumed?

lettering is frankly shocking look at "officially certified chronometer"... and its a bloody "crosshair" pie pan some bright spark somewhere decided its a good idea to fake the dial with one that would be rather desirable if it was genuine but its bloody crap.

IF... IF... you could certify the movement matches the case number (you will need to ask him he will need to tell you the truth... (unless hes a total prick and its 50/50 i guess.. he may say "dunno how checking me not open watch mee needing specialistica watchy man maker me not knowing me thinky thinky very good.."

off topic... where am i...? oh yea IF you can certify the movement matches the case AND is in good unbutchered condition (still 50/50) then its worth buying BUT be ready to spend another £500+ on a good dial and then you will have a GOOD but not all original condition watch... and its still stupidly over polished

 

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FullyWound

·Nov 19, 2016

"A pristine stainless steel Constellation Omega automatic chronometre officially certified"

PRISTINE!

 

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Jbill

·Nov 19, 2016

Thanks all for your thoughts on it.

 

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cicindela

·Nov 19, 2016·Steve @ ΩF

Jbill

Thanks all for your thoughts on it.

This is not only bad , it is really very bad.

Oh, and the rotor is bad too.

 

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ulackfocus

·Nov 19, 2016

The best redial detectors are inside of n00bs. They just don't know they always pick the redials.

 

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FullyWound

·Nov 19, 2016

wrong crown

basically nothing is right with it...

 

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JohnSteed

·Nov 20, 2016

Hey @Jbill .... you'll need to get your eyes trained on these

Check out this thread when you get a chance. It's a small put together by members what they have or have had.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/vintage-constellations-show-and-tell.19186/page-32#post-584431


Good luck on the hunt!!

 

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Peemacgee

·Nov 20, 2016

+1
Connies are great watches
Immerse yourself in the finer detail and you'll find a good one
Check out Desmond's blog too

 

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JohnSteed

·Nov 20, 2016

Desmond's [ aka @mondodec ] blog for you

http://omega-constellation-collectors.blogspot.hk/?m=1

 

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Jbill

·Nov 21, 2016

Thank you, JohnSteed and Peemacgee, for the great advice and kind words.