This really pisses me off! Swatch Group cuts parts supplies to external distributors (UK).

Posts
547
Likes
368
I'll try to answer the best I can...

1 - It's not just US and Canada - this is global. Anyway, I did read somewhere a supplier had stated that the letter they received from Swatch Group indicated that new orders would be stopped before December, so that any outstanding back orders could be brought in before the December cut off. I've tried to find that reference again but have not been able to find is yet. From my memory (which I do not trust fully) I think the cut-off was in September sometime for new orders.

2 - As far as I know, any parts they have in stock they will keep, unless they decide to sell them back to Swatch. That is the normal procedure when an account is closed with Swatch per the spare parts policy anyway.

3 - I don't think they have cut them off yet...

Cheers, Al

Al,

Thanks the update on this subject!

Still trying to speculate how this is going to change how I buy/trade/collect vintage Omegas. My plan before Swatch group decided to cut off the parts supply houses was to sell off the 100 or so Omegas I have accumulated over the next 15-20 years.

Just for conversation sake, I'm going to say there are three categories of vintage Omega, 1) common, 2) uncommon, and 3) rare. Is it a sound to speculate that the common and some of the uncommon references may become too expensive or not worth restoring if OEM parts are needed compared to their values to collectors? Is it also a sound to speculate that the rare references will be worth restoring as they are more desirable/valuable? (Of course, as always, aesthetic condition will always play a huge role in desirability/value, possibly even increasing values of the common and uncommon.)

All the above is pure speculation and I may be totally off base, but it is making me rethink the timeframe I sell off especially the common and uncommon references, maybe only holding onto fine examples and the more rare references.

Others opinions/speculations are welcomed! Am I the only Omega collector that is wondering what the future looks like for this hobby?
 
Posts
9,217
Likes
24,055
From a less experienced perspective, I'd say hold the ones that are in excellent Condition, Condition, Condition plus a few extras for parts.

..I might be in the market for a nice cal 751 seamaster sparkle, if ya got one. 馃槈
 
Posts
547
Likes
368
From a less experienced perspective, I'd say hold the ones that are in excellent Condition, Condition, Condition plus a few extras for parts.

..I might be in the market for a nice cal 751 seamaster sparkle, if ya got one. 馃槈

I may have something...PM me if I don't get back with you by Saturday.
 
Posts
29,244
Likes
75,639
Still trying to speculate how this is going to change how I buy/trade/collect vintage Omegas.

The scenarios you bring up are best answered by fellow collectors, rather than by me with my watchmaker hat on. However some things can be considered based on what we know right now...

1 - How fast particular parts run out will depend on how many the supplier has in stock - my understanding is that when this was announced, Omega agreed to supply based on previous years orders, so no supplier would have the chance to order 10X what they normally would in a year to stock up in preparation for this change.

2 - The most popular parts will be the first to run out generally, but also may be the parts that a supplier has the most of on hand. I expect there will be a "run" on certain parts if people know what is likely to be needed. If it were me, I would be looking at consumable items like crystals, gaskets, pushers, crowns, mainsprings, or high wear items like train wheels, bushings, etc.. I often get asked "what spares should I buy" and that is a difficult question. Although I know a few parts that I replace on many watches, if you really want to you can find a reason to justify keeping just about any part on hand (in particular since you know they might not be available in the future).

3 - Most material suppliers buy up parts from sources other than the companies that produce the parts. So this means when a smaller material supplier goes out of business (this will be an unfortunate result of policies like this one) they usually sell all their stock to a larger material supplier. I have been in the "back rooms" of a few large material suppliers, and many have huge piles of boxes of parts that have been purchased and not yet sorted for sale. Also, these material suppliers will buy parts from watchmaker estates, so there is an influx of parts of various types, even after the supplies have been cut off. The larger the material supplier, the more likely they will have what you need as the parts supply becomes more concentrated.

4 - Watchmakers will also have parts in stock. I just looked at my 2014 year end inventory, and every year the dollar figure held in parts surprises me a bit...I won't say more than that, except that those tiny parts add up fast. 馃槈

5 - There is no doubt the secondary market for parts, from material suppliers, eBay, etc. will go up in price. As I have said for things like Cal. 321 parts, most people who hold those parts that are no longer readily available from Omega know they are rare, and as the value of the watches rise, people are willing to spend more and more on the parts to keep those watches going.

6 - You still have the option of going to Omega, or to a watchmaker that has a parts account.

Anyway, just a few thoughts that might be relevant to your decision making process going forward.

Cheers, Al
 
Posts
18
Likes
59
Completely agree with you, Al. Maybe I can help. I have a few brand new old stock parts too.... my late father, qualified watchmaker, had a 41 year association with Omega. That's why. Hence, have a few vintages watches too. Some real gems!! Many still with the original factory seal. I also have some Omega tools kits such as the 1990 bracelet kit. See the link: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/291581548642?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
I must confess I am by no means an expert or a trained watchmaker, just grew up with them so I have a huge appreciation for good quality timepieces, particularly Omega.