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this looks funky to me, you guys think it is fake speedy?

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i am in the market for speedy 9300, ran across this speedy9300 , but it doesnt look right to me . bezel number looks faded and fuzzy and the date number just doesn't look right .comes with box but no card! what you guys think
 
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I agree. Date wheel is way off, the number isn't big enough and is off-center. The hands don't look right either, there isn't enough depth to where the superluminova is added. Bezel is atrocious.

Message Kringkily. He can source one for you and youll be confident it's real.
 
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I don't know, the size of the number 4 in the date wheel bugs me, doesn't look right. See if you can get a shot of the back to see the serial number/movement
 
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I already reported it to Ebay. The dead giveaway is the movement pic: plate is 100% wrong.
 
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yinzerniner yinzerniner
I already reported it to Ebay. The dead giveaway is the movement pic: plate is 100% wrong.

Pusher stems are also.
 
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True 9300 movement shot for reference. Randomly placed jewels by barrel one??
 
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True 9300 movement shot for reference. Randomly placed jewels by barrel one??
The biggest tipoff is the lack of column wheel cutouts. The randomly placed jewels are easily seen in a comparison shot, but just off the cuff that fake movement is bad by even woodshop standards.
 
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Looking at the first pic and the applied markers makes me wonder if applied markers are cheaper for the counterfeiters, or if they are are something they have in stock?
 
Andy K
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The real one doesn't have applied markers.
 
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That is exactly my point, why does the fake?
It's probably easier to make dials look real via a mishmash of glued-on parts then trying to print or paint directly onto a dial. Then again, who knows if any of these counterfeiting morons even looked at a watch they're copying other than a single low-res online image.
 
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Vercingetorix Vercingetorix
That is exactly my point, why does the fake?

Left overs from the production run of the previous <brand> (fill in name).
 
Zidius
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these counterfeiting people are getting better and better ,luckily most newer Omega are pretty technologicallyadvanced,.harder for them to fake omegas.i have seen a PAM111 rep that look EXACTLY 1:1 like the gen, even the decorated movement, kinda scarry
 
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The biggest tipoff is the lack of column wheel cutouts. The randomly placed jewels are easily seen in a comparison shot, but just off the cuff that fake movement is bad by even woodshop standards.

For me it's that the jewels have no pivots in them...
 
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Wonder if this annoys the watch companies, and if they spend any time/energy on attempting to remediate the problem.
 
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M'Bob M'Bob
Wonder if this annoys the watch companies, and if they spend any time/energy on attempting to remediate the problem.

I would seriously doubt it's worth their efforts to worry about other than to continually improve their designs. The fake market is nowhere near the OEM in terms of true collectors, buyers, sellers etc.... There are a "hand full" of dealers that specialize in providing fake watches to buyers that want to own cheaper watches that "look" like or very similar to the real thing. Then the numbers drop even further for people that try to pass them off as genuine "knowingly" ripping people off.
 
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