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This is not a watch for you...

  1. watchknut

    watchknut New watch + Instagram + wife = dumbass Jul 12, 2019 8:55am

    I am tired of it...

    I am in sales, and I employ the takeaway all the time with my prospective clients...if they are wasting my time, not putting in the work, or are just being a pain in the butt, I let them know that our platform is not for them.

    It works like a charm, and separates out the serious prospects vs. the perpetual tire kickers.

    I’ve had to start doing this when selling watches.

    When I get a long list of questions that have been covered in the listing or moronic questions, or a super low ball, I simply respond:

    “This is not a watch for you...”

    I don’t have time to even engage with these buyers because I know that even if they buy, chances are they try to find a problem with the watch and ask for money back.

    Just had to vent...
  2. astrand

    astrand Jul 12, 2019 9:07am

    I work in web design and deal with very large clients now, but when we started we took any client, because it meant making money and paying our salaries.

    Eventually, you learn to say no to some clients, especially those that won't be worth the pain.

    My dad is a plastic surgeon and does this all the time. After so many years, you can tell which are going to be the ones that are never happy and will try to sue you. They come for the consultation with a photo of some persons nose.. And no matter how good of a surgeon you are, you can not give an exact copy of another person's nose. So, if they are adamant about having "this person's nose" he drops them.

    Edited Jul 12, 2019 9:15am
  3. shishy

    shishy Jul 12, 2019 10:07am

    Funny, I was thinking the other day I picked up on things exactly like this selling watches and it helped me when I started doing freelance work for startups/finding clients.
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  4. wristpirate

    wristpirate Jul 12, 2019 10:15am

    Selling watches is the worst part about this hobby.

    Buying watches meanwhile...
  5. septentrio

    septentrio Jul 12, 2019 10:42am

    And yet, times will change, and then you will be happy that there is interest to begin with. I’m also a bit tired of sellers not wanting to answer a sensable list of questions. They don’t want to take the time, as the watch will probably also sell to a buyer that does not raise the questions. I have a list of sellers (not here, on other platforms) that just do not bother to answer when they get some more in-depth questions. I have other standards as a seller than going for the ‘easiest buyer’.

    Disclaimer: I have not interacted with the TS in any way so I’m not talking about him ;)
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  6. Dan S

    Dan S Jul 12, 2019 10:43am

    I was watching something on TV the other day with my wife, I think it was one of those shows where someone is trying to find a place to buy or rent. The owner had set an asking price, and the potential renter just baldly asked them if they could do any better. I blurted out something like "how rude", and my wife (who is also in sales) asked me what I was talking about. I told her that the proper thing to do is to make an offer, not ask the seller to just reduce his price. That's definitely one of my pet peeves as a seller, when someone just asks "What's your best price?" without even making an offer.
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  7. Fritz

    Fritz genuflects before the mighty quartzophobe Jul 12, 2019 10:56am

    watches can be sold??!?!?

    this is a concept I'd never considered. I must ponder this heresy and decide if its even possible.

    except that damn Rolex... that was easy to sell... for an Omega, which means it was in fact very easy...

    perhaps I do understand afterall.

    Now, moronic customers. that I understand! Working, for most of my career, in quality in the automotive industry I am more than familiar with the moronic customers.

    "Yes sir, the bearings will be damaged and fail if you beat them in with a hammer." (Chrysler)
    "Yes sir, I'm saying the door fell off the vehicle and flattened the customer in the parking lot because you installed the roller assembly at an improper angle." (GM)
    "yes sir, if you go ahead with that design it will fail, demolishing the OHC drive and possibly wiping out the cylinder head. Honda used a similar design 40 years ago and they replaced it pretty quickly"

    That last one was my favorite, I made that claim early in the prototyping phase at a meeting with their design guys, with a set of ancient Honda can drive parts on the table next to their prototype drawings. My boss later gave me shit for beating up the customers engineers and the customer went ahead with the design. The first 20,000 production engines recalled for cam drive faults. I laughed my ass off. (no name, I still have to work with these clowns)

    and we're not going to discuss FIAT.
  8. Vercingetorix

    Vercingetorix Jul 12, 2019 10:59am

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  9. 1965Speedie

    1965Speedie Jul 12, 2019 11:09am

    You'll find that same personality type in several forms throughout your life, and the more distance you can give them the better.
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  10. JwRosenthal

    JwRosenthal Jul 12, 2019 11:10am

    I've had this happen selling vintage Hi-Fi, they ask what's my best price, and I answer " MY best price is 1 Million dollars, but since I can't ask for that, you already have my best price- it's what I listed it for". Now as you say, if they want to make a reasonable offer, that's different.
  11. KingCrouchy

    KingCrouchy Jul 12, 2019 11:11am

    I always try to be polite when selling a watch. Last time someone asked if I had the Omega Box for it (in the description was written just the watch without box and papers). I searched for one and gave it for free on top. Then he asked about a manual on how to use the Watch. I made a 3 page PDF on how to use an Omega Seamaster with a Cal.562. Then he contacted me when the watch was at the customs, and was mad at me because he had to pay customs on the watch.::facepalm1:: I took the watch back and sold it in two days to someone else.
  12. Eve

    Eve Jul 12, 2019 11:32am

    So funny, i had dejavu while reading your post! i had exact same discussion with my wife recently :)

    What i also seriously dislike beside the "what is your best price?" questions (because these i can simply ignore) as a seller, is when i give a thorough reply to the potential buyer, answering every single question.. And then never hear from them again.. Drives me nuts!
    I am fine if they would at least say" thank you, i will think about it".
    Edited Jul 12, 2019 1:47pm
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  13. JwRosenthal

    JwRosenthal Jul 12, 2019 11:49am

    As consumers (which we all are), it is our goal to get something as close to free as possible. As a seller, it's our goal to get the most out of something as possible. It's a delicate dance that can be done without stepping on each-other's toes.
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  14. Joe_A

    Joe_A Jul 12, 2019 1:41pm

    I look at it this way . . .

    Buying and selling rarely brings out the best in us, though one should be able to have a reasonable expectation of civility and even politeness. If the parties are patient with one another, the transaction may take a bit longer than absolutely necessary, but there is a good chance both parties will be satisfied with the result, whether a transaction takes place or not.

    Sometimes it isn't only about what you say or what you do as much as it is about how you do it. In a face-to-face transaction, it may not be offensive to politely ask a seller for the bottom line price, but this can easily come off as rude when one is seeming to be disrespectful or if done in text form such as we have here or in email.

    I've had this done to me when selling a used car or two and I have responded just the way some in here have suggested: "The price I am asking is the price I am seeking. If you have a reasonable offer to make, I'll happily entertain it." When it comes to used cars, it is not surprising when someone comes back with an offer half what you are looking for. "Have a nice day!" says I. ;)

    If the buyer has not done enough homework, they will be less sure of a reasonable valuation. The buyer may remain unsure even after doing some due diligence. It's possible the buyer doesn't know what to offer but neither wishes to insult with a low offer nor overpay.

    If the seller wants to sell into a larger pool of potential buyers, he or she will go out of their way to cause the prospective buyer to be comfortable.

    If a buyer wants to complete a transaction, he or she will go out of their way to make the seller feel comfortable.

    There needs to be some give and take.
  15. Mark020

    Mark020 not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer Jul 12, 2019 1:56pm

    Exactly. My price is there. Make me an offer. Don't like to negotiate with myself.
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  16. Vercingetorix

    Vercingetorix Jul 12, 2019 2:01pm

    I had a buyer lowball massively me on an ebay item. Like $30 on a $300 item. I declined. Then he upped it like $5. I declined again. He asked me what my best price was. I said $250. He declined and stated he didn’t want to play my games.::facepalm2::
  17. Dan S

    Dan S Jul 12, 2019 2:06pm

    On the show "American Pickers", when someone is waffling about an asking price, sometimes one of the characters says "I can't buy it AND sell it."
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  18. Observer

    Observer Jul 12, 2019 2:12pm

    I wouldn't necessarily disagree, but...
    As buyers and sellers, a win/win deal should be the goal. It's what makes future deals possible.
  19. jimmyd13

    jimmyd13 Jul 12, 2019 2:15pm

    I have a standard reply to this. Goes something like ...
    Customer: you're asking £1000.00 for this ... what's your best price.
    Me: Well, my best price would be £1500.00, but seeing as I thought that was probably too much, I pegged it at £1000. What are you offering?

    Now, I've been known to stand a car boot sale once in a while (about twice a year, depending how much overspill I have). I love car boot sales. This one's almost verbatim:
    Customer (asian): how much?
    Me: For those earrings? Five pounds.
    C: 50p
    M: Sorry, I think you misheard ... £5.00.
    M: No.

    Customer walks away. A little while later, he comes back.
    C: {points} 50p
    M: 12 pounds.
    C: what?
    M: I'm sorry, at this point I thought we were just shouting numbers.

    Customer walks away again. At the end of the morning he walks back ... I just look him in the eye, smile and shake my head.

    These are the ones I wish I could sell a broken quartz watch to .. but I'm not that mean.
  20. JwRosenthal

    JwRosenthal Jul 12, 2019 2:25pm

    Totally agree. I have found among members here there is much more civility in the FS area (you don’t crap where you eat). When it’s priced right, it sells fast with no haggling- we all know what this stuff is worth for the most part.
    If it lingers, then we know it’s probably too high or the market for that watch is soft and the seller adjusts. It’s the way we wish it all could be.
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