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TimeODanaos
·People would bring their dog to give away and start telling their sob story...
all she was thinking was “yeah, yeah- just give me the damn dog”.
Things you learn never to do in life…
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Walrus
·Similarly for me, normally I either get them back in the same week ( even the same day) or the next week. Except for one he had for about 8 or 9 months, he couldn't get the parts either new or second hand and he was forced to make them!!! Multiple injury patient, balance wheel, staff, set levers and several other nasty complaints but by the time he finished my original model Smith's Deluxe was running well with in COSC standards.
I NEVER ask how long it will take, I have to much respect for his dedication and skill and just count my self lucky to have found such a master watchmaker.
I do on occasion use one female watchmaker who has a shop in the town I work in. Honestly she is the only female watchmaker I know.
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JwRosenthal
·I'm devastated to hear my suspicions confirmed! I've never had to give up a dog thank goodness, but I've had conversations like that with people ranging from coaches to editors to schoolteachers and of course watchmakers. They are polite and benign, but I always worried that they're thinking, yeah, yeah, spare me your amateur enthusiast take on this, will you? I had clung to some hope I might be wrong...
In regards to pet rescue, it the sob story that’s the issue there. They are giving up a pet, they don’t want it yet they made the commitment to this poor animal when they adopted it originally- and now it isn’t convenient (of course if real hardship like family death or financial ruin- she was very empathetic).
They would try to give their backstory, make excuses and rationalize their choices (new apartment is so nice but doesn’t accept pets so Fluffy has to go homeless). It may sound callous, but when someone decides to give an animal away, they have forfeited their right to try and save face…just give the rescue the animal and they will take it from there.
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Walrus
·I'm devastated to hear my suspicions confirmed! I've never had to give up a dog thank goodness, but I've had conversations like that with people ranging from coaches to editors to schoolteachers and of course watchmakers. They are polite and benign, but I always worried that they're thinking, yeah, yeah, spare me your amateur enthusiast take on this, will you? I had clung to some hope I might be wrong...
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stonestone
·I imagine if you are running a rescues you need to focus on the care of the dogs cause damn man people have come close to breakdowns giving up pets and they have thus feeling of guilt on top of the loss. That must be tough on the rescue people they gotta focus on the task at hand.
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Pun
·I never make complicated passwords for crypto, stocks or any other sensitive important information. All my passwords for everything are “I forgot” that way if I’m tortured to give up the information even if they have me on a lie detector they will still think I actually forgot. These are life hacks that have never failed me.
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JwRosenthal
·But I think JW’s example is a bit unique. Perhaps that person had to detach a bit as I have brought people to shelters and rescues who were forced to give up their animal due to losing a home, finances and various other reasons. It tore them up so bad they felt they needed to tell their life story to the person taking the dog. Then they cry all the way home. I imagine if you are running a rescues you need to focus on the care of the dogs cause damn man people have come close to breakdowns giving up pets and they have thus feeling of guilt on top of the loss. That must be tough on the rescue people they gotta focus on the task at hand.
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cvalue13
·Do they expect people to book another appointment to ask about something else? Seems inefficient (for both of us) to book an appointment for each thing I might want to talk to my practitioners about...
On one hand: no, the good ones merely expect you only to book an appointment for the thingS you want to talk about (which may entail a longer appointment, a different day, a different room in an office, a different office altogether, etc.), as opposed to booking an appointment for A thing, only to Trojan horse several surprise things.
On the other hand, in Canada, since the doctors are already 4-6 months behind schedule, what’s a few more minutes?
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerOn the other hand, in Canada, since the doctors are already 4-6 months behind schedule, what’s a few more minutes?
If this is a serious statement, then you have clearly been affected by the propaganda that is put out by your country's for profit healthcare system and their lobbyists. They make great efforts to paint any system other than theirs as being substandard with talk of "death panels" here and nonsense like that.
Our system here is far from perfect, and could have many improvements certainly, but we spend less per capita than the US, have better overall outcomes (as do the majority of single payer systems, of which ours is one of the worst performing unfortunately), we have greater life expectancy, lower infant mortality rates, etc.
From the perspective of someone who is a regular user of the system here, have I ever waited 4-6 months for an appointment?
From my GP? Nope.
From my dermatologist? Nope.
From my rheumatologist? Nope.
From my cardiologist? Nope.
From my physiotherapist? Nope.
From any other medical practitioner? Nope.
So they either somehow know months before I do that I need the appointments and have pre-booked me even before I call, or the idea that this is the norm here is complete nonsense. I think I know which is more likely.
Cheers, Al
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M'Bob
·I NEVER ask how long it will take, I have to much respect for his dedication and skill and just count my self lucky to have found such a master watchmaker.
I consider myself lucky when I or a family member gets in to see an overly booked physician.
I’ve been collecting, selling and enjoying vintage and new watches for over 30 years. At the point that I have to dance around asking a watchmaker for a general idea of when a project will be completed, is when I gather all this shit up and put it up for sale.
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vintage hab
·When I worked in retail in college, it was standard greeting to say to a customer “hi, how are you today?”. I would recite that greeting without giving it a thought until one customer asked “ do you really care”. I looked at him and said “no, not really”. He smiled and kept browsing.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerI'm originally from the Great White North, where typically we ask people how they are when we're interested. I ended up marrying a southern girl and we eventually moved to the southeast of the USA. Everyone would greet me with "How yah doing?", and so I would start to tell them... only to have them look at me strangely and walk away... I eventually figured out that southern friendliness is somewhat of a myth, and "How yah doing?" is really just code for "Hello". 😗
How are ya now?
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TimeODanaos
·I'm originally from the Great White North, where typically we ask people how they are when we're interested. I ended up marrying a southern girl and we eventually moved to the southeast of the USA. Everyone would greet me with "How yah doing?", and so I would start to tell them... only to have them look at me strangely and walk away... I eventually figured out that southern friendliness is somewhat of a myth, and "How yah doing?" is really just code for "Hello". 😗
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vintage hab
·Marry a British girl next time...
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dsio
··Ash @ ΩFTake things personally or assume vendettas on the internet.
Most of what the mod team does is about keeping things clean, tidy, and orderly. If one of us is in a hurry and we are a guy bumping too many times in a day, we will delete the bump or if it’s a guy who does it constantly we may remove the whole listing in order to get them to pay attention. People expect a 1200 word essay on why the word bump was removed and get quite heated when they don’t receive it.
Some people also get oddly attached to a thread they created and get deeply upset when it’s moderated or locked, what they sometimes don’t realise is it’s often just a matter of it being “at risk” or getting messy and due to few mods online or it being 3am and needing to go to bed it’ll be locked and released in the morning to keep the peace while we sleep.
The biggest misconceptions probably surround @cicindela because he does the most cleanup work and hands on moderating both in the sales section and in threads that get rowdy. So many times people have felt that Steve was out to get them or hated them or something when he’s actually one of the calmest, most impartial and forgiving people just because he removed their sales thread that didn’t meet the rules or trimmed some abusive posts from a thread.
We can tell the difference between a good person having a bad day and a bad person acting their nature too
Most of what the mod team does is about keeping things clean, tidy, and orderly. If one of us is in a hurry and we are a guy bumping too many times in a day, we will delete the bump or if it’s a guy who does it constantly we may remove the whole listing in order to get them to pay attention. People expect a 1200 word essay on why the word bump was removed and get quite heated when they don’t receive it.
Some people also get oddly attached to a thread they created and get deeply upset when it’s moderated or locked, what they sometimes don’t realise is it’s often just a matter of it being “at risk” or getting messy and due to few mods online or it being 3am and needing to go to bed it’ll be locked and released in the morning to keep the peace while we sleep.
The biggest misconceptions probably surround @cicindela because he does the most cleanup work and hands on moderating both in the sales section and in threads that get rowdy. So many times people have felt that Steve was out to get them or hated them or something when he’s actually one of the calmest, most impartial and forgiving people just because he removed their sales thread that didn’t meet the rules or trimmed some abusive posts from a thread.
We can tell the difference between a good person having a bad day and a bad person acting their nature too
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dennisthemenace
·Do they expect people to book another appointment to ask about something else? Seems inefficient (for both of us) to book an appointment for each thing I might want to talk to my practitioners about...
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JwRosenthal
·We can tell the difference between a good person having a bad day and a bad person acting their nature too
This is something my wife has taught me and it’s changed my life- empathy.
I used to be very quick to say “fυck that deuche”. I’ve learned to take a beat before reacting to someone and think about what could they potentially be going through that would cause their behavior..maybe they spilled their coffee on themselves this morning and it just set the tone for their day, maybe they are having a mental health crisis and need to punch down, maybe they are so lonely that they are looking for any kind of interaction and negative is just as welcome as positive…or maybe they are just a dueche.
Going to empathy before anger may not only let someone know that you aren’t their enemy, but it lets them also know that someone is earnestly listening. Plus you feel a hell of a lot better knowing you tried to be a mensch that reacting like an asshole.
