THINGS WITH SPRINGS CH CHAT 05/17/26

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The Things With Springs Clubhouse room is meant for a Live watch forum experience with a small GTG. We are striving for a collector to collector conversation.. Having collectors either email me a photo of their watch ( or they can join the forum and reply to this thread ) so we can " chat" about it in real time... Just to be clear we dont have to talk about a posted watch ... this is a free flowing room on topics on vintage watches and things around watch collecting ... And at the end of the GTG when everyone leaves the CH room... and the room no longer exists ... This thread will remain as a quasi record of the event and we can later go back and refer to.... Hear you at 3:00 pm DST Sunday ....

THINGS WITH SPRINGS CH CHAT 05/17/26



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Claude Sonnet's take on the first Polerouter's value for what it's worth:
That's a really interesting piece - a Universal Genève Polerouter with a "Microtor only" dial, which is actually one of the rarer variants. Here's what I can tell you:

What you have: A vintage Universal Genève Polerouter, circa late 1950s/early 1960s, with a black dial and the distinctive crosshair design. The dial reads just "Microtor" (not "Automatic Microtor"), which is significant.

Why it matters: The "Microtor only" dials are believed to have appeared on just three Polerouter references - the 20360, 20363, and 10357 - and production numbers were somewhere between only 200–500 for each sub-reference, representing just a few percent of total Polerouter production. However, there's an important caveat: some dials can be misidentified as "Microtor only" because on black dial references the "Automatic" text can fade heavily, making it look like only "Microtor" remains. Careful cleaning can sometimes reveal it is actually an "Automatic Microtor" dial. UniversalgenevepolerouterUniversalgenevepolerouter

Value range: Vintage Polerouters sell for prices between $800 and $12,000, with the range depending heavily on condition, reference, and whether it's a genuine "Microtor only" dial. The most expensive Polerouter ever sold at auction went for $86,427 in 2025 at Phillips Bacs & Russo. Your Watch HubEveryWatch

Condition notes from the photo: The dial shows significant wear/scratching on the crystal and the dial surface itself, which will impact value downward. The gold-tone case also shows wear. These condition issues would likely put this toward the lower-to-mid part of the range.

Rough estimate for this piece: $800–$2,500, depending on whether the movement is running, whether it's a true "Microtor only" dial, and the specific reference number.

For a more precise valuation, I'd recommend getting it examined by a vintage watch specialist or submitting it to an auction house like Phillips or Antiquorum. The "Microtor only" detail, if confirmed, could push it meaningfully higher.