THINGS WITH SPRINGS CH CHAT 02/04/24

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hi everyone.

Just a FYI . this is still a work in progress..... The Things With Springs Clubhouse room is meant for a Live watch forum experience with a small GTG. We are striving for a collector to collector conversations.. having collectors either email me photo of there watch ( or they can join the forum and reply to this thread ) so we can " chat" about in real time... Just to be clear we dont have to talk about a posted watch ... this is a free flowing room on topics on vintage watches and things around watch collecting ... And at the end of the GTG when everyone leaves the CH room... and the room no longer exist ... This thread will remain as a quasi record of the event and we can later go back and refer to.... Hear you at 3:00 pm EST Sunday ....

THINGS WITH SPRINGS CH CHAT 02/04/24
Remember the Clubhouse room is only as good as the collectors that join in.... please post a watch, timepiece , clock etc you want to chat about.

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What is your first purchase of 2024 ? !


Be Safe

Good Hunting

Bill Sohne
 
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It is a great day in NYC!


Hello Everyone.....

As a collector sometimes the journey is the reward ....

I wanted to share a clock that I missed on ebay a few years ago .... ( long silly story, just "dropped" the ball ). I even saved the seller's description and titled the document " Chelsea I should have bought" .

Here is the ebay seller's description :

"This is a really nice and early six inch dial Chelsea Ship's Bell Clock, circa 1901, retailed by Theodore Starr and Co. of New York. It was awarded by the Atlantic Yacht Club as a 2nd Prize Trophy to " Sloop Isolt " from the "Annual Cruise. Run of 28th Aug 1901" " New London to Shelter Island". This clock cost nearly $60 when new, including the original brass and wood base, so this was a very nice 2nd prize. The serial number on the clock movement and the back of the brass case is #5xxx, which corresponds to the information listed on the front of the screw bezel. The serial number on the back of the case is faint and hard to photograph. The clock seems all original to me, including the hands and early Roman Numeral dial with C.C. Co instead of Chelsea Clock Co. The clock runs and strikes the proper ship's bell sequence exactly as it should and sounds very cool. It ran eight days with no issues except it lost a couple of minutes every day because I have not adjusted the slow/fast setting. There is no key included with the clock, as I used one of my other clock keys to wind it. Overall measurements are: Dial 6 inches with bezel removed, Bezel 7.25 inches, Overall height 9.5 inches, Overall width 10.25 inches. I have not polished the brass case or brass mounting base, as some people prefer that look. This is a very heavy and excellent quality clock"

I later did more research that the Atlantic Yacht Club was in Brooklyn, and was at one point known as the Brooklyn Yacht Club... So I said to myself " I will keep an eye out .... "

A few years later Andrew Demeter reached out to me knowing I like Clocks with a New York connection.. he did not know my run in with the above clock.

I remember getting the call from him , as I was outside a building in Queens freezing my buns off waiting for a water inspection... After chatting for a few mins I thanked him and bought the clock.

Now onto the Clock and Yacht Islot ...

Clock was sold 4/12/1901 to Theodore B. Starr New York as per Chelsea Sales ledger..

The ship that won the "Award" the ISLOT reads like ship royalty...

The Islot was designed by Edward Burgess. Mr. Burgess having designed three successful cup defenders PURITAN , MAYFLOWER and VOLUNTEER. Mr. Burgess, in seven years of active work as a designer, produced the lines of 137 vessels, of which there were 38 cutters, 35 steam yachts, 29 catboats, 17 sloops, 11 fishing-vessels, 3 pilot-boats, 3 working-vessels, and 1 yawl. One of his last vessels was the ISLOT built in the same year he died 1891.

The ISLOT was built by George Lawley & Son Shipbuilders... same company that built

two of Edwards Burgess America's Cup Defenders PURITAN , MAYFLOWER.

I love the clock and the history behind the award... I am including LLOYD'S register with the ISLOT listing in 1902 ... plus a except from Rudder mag with Log notes from 1907 and photos on board the ISLOT and hull drawing. Photo from MIT archive dated July 1901 a month before the race and photos of the clock !

We hit 5.2k members last week at Marine Clocks & Ships Clocks Collectors Group aka Things With Springs

Good Hunting

Bill

 
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The recent purchase I mentioned last week arrived so I have some photos. Indeed it is a 2640 and cleaned up pretty nicely. The dial is great.

 
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Here is our vintage Seth Thomas mantle clock. Manufactured by E N Welch manufacturing Co. It was a gift from my late father-in-law to my wife. I don’t know anything about the origin of the clock but I think it is 1860s in origin. It’s been sitting on the mantle for 25 years and been in our house for longer. Hand painted door. Currently not running, but the weights are present inside the clock.
 
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Here is our vintage Seth Thomas mantle clock. Manufactured by E N Welch manufacturing Co. It was a gift from my late father-in-law to my wife. I don’t know anything about the origin of the clock but I think it is 1860s in origin. It’s been sitting on the mantle for 25 years and been in our house for longer. Hand painted door. Currently not running, but the weights are present inside the clock.
We are currently talking about this thread on the Clubhouse app.
 
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We are currently talking about this thread on the Clubhouse app.
I’m in the waitlist and don’t have access to the room unfortunately
 
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My vintage Longines 9024 with date at 12, but no power reserve.

 
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L29214562 - 40mm

bad news is that it is an ETA piggyback...
 
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We are currently talking about this thread on the Clubhouse app.
I’ll try again next week. I’ve emailed Bill. Love to hear if anyone had any insight of note on the clock.
 
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I’ll try again next week. I’ve emailed Bill. Love to hear if anyone had any insight of note on the clock.
what is your user name in clubhouse?
 
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Since we are speaking of Longines chronographs, here are some photos of my 13zn, ref 5020 from 1942. 36mm case.

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Here is our vintage Seth Thomas mantle clock. Manufactured by E N Welch manufacturing Co. It was a gift from my late father-in-law to my wife. I don’t know anything about the origin of the clock but I think it is 1860s in origin. It’s been sitting on the mantle for 25 years and been in our house for longer. Hand painted door. Currently not running, but the weights are present inside the clock.

on a clock like this.... I would suggest you go to
https://www.nawcc.org/

and go to the general clock discussion group .....