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Thieves in Motorcycle Run Over by BMW after Stealing a Cartier

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This happened a few weeks ago in Bogotá, Colombia. Two thieves on a motorcycle stole a ca. $9K USD Cartier from a BWW. The driver of the BMW and owner of the Cartier, who's a lawyer, then runs over the thieves' motorcycle. You can see shots fired at the lawyer just before he rams them up, so there is an obvious self-defense case.

Looks like nothing happened to the thieves (unfortunately), and they were captured by police when trying to escape by foot later on.

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sleepyastronaut
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From what I can see, the driver of this car hit, or caused to hit, at least four other vehicles.

How many people did he injure, in total, for the sake a $9k watch?
 
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sleepyastronaut sleepyastronaut
From what I can see, the driver of this car hit, or caused to hit, at least four other vehicles.

How many people did he injure, in total, for the sake a $9k watch?

yeah. Not a smart thing for a lawyer to do. Those other drivers have every right to sue him now for damage and bodily injury AND he provided them with all the evidence needed for them to win.
 
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From what I can see, the driver of this car hit, or caused to hit, at least four other vehicles.

How many people did he injure, in total, for the sake a $9k watch?

I believe only the two thieves were hit. Lots of damage to the nice Beamer of the lawyer. Wonder if insurance would cover all the damages.
 
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yeah. Not a smart thing for a lawyer to do. Those other drivers have every right to sue him now for damage and bodily injury AND he provided them with all the evidence needed for them to win.

I would agree, if the gun were not pointed at him. If the lawyer would not have rammed or waited a few seconds, who knows if they would have shot him. That said, the lawyer did follow the thieves aften being mugged the Cartier.
 
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reverbtime reverbtime
I believe only the two thieves were hit.
The cars in opposing traffic that got innocently tied up in this, would beg to differ.

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Looks like nothing happened to the thieves (unfortunately)

Unfortunately? Yes, they robbed someone. That’s a crime and they should face the legal consequences for that. I’d still be happy for their physical integrity to be preserved.

The response by the lawyer is completely out of proportion and I hope he, too, faces legal consequences for risking lives over a watch.
 
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yeah. Not a smart thing for a lawyer to do. Those other drivers have every right to sue him now for damage and bodily injury AND he provided them with all the evidence needed for them to win.
So now we know where Dr Gonzo went after being busted in Vegas

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Unfortunately? Yes, they robbed someone. That’s a crime and they should face the legal consequences for that. I’d still be happy for their physical integrity to be preserved.

The response by the lawyer is completely out of proportion and I hope he, too, faces legal consequences for risking lives over a watch.

If you look closely at the video, shots were actually fired at the driver before he crashed them. Looks like I know which side you are on. No further comments.
 
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No further comments.

Thank you, appreciate it. Let's go back to watches, instead of wishing harm to people. 😀
 
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If you look closely at the video, shots were actually fired at the driver before he crashed them. Looks like I know which side you are on. No further comments.
The fact of the matter is: both the thieves and the victim of theft were beyond reckless and both could have killed innocent people.

The thieves took life threatening measures by firing their gun in a busy crowded area. Putting innocent bystanders at risk.

The driver took life threatening measures by turning his car into a high speed battling ram, in a busy crowded area. Putting innocent bystanders at risk & and causing known bodily harm and physical property damage to a number of people.

Could this have been avoided with the theft not taking place? Sure, but that didn’t happen. Could this have further been avoided with the recipient of theft not taking retaliatory measures? Yup, which is what should have happened. It was just a watch. Not worth anyones lives.

Your fight and defense of the driver is just silly.
 
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Bad mix, road rage, guy just got held up and violated probably fixated in on the perps didn’t take in the large picture only saw the perps. And these things happen so quickly. I’m not defending the guy it’s just you never know how you will react to these situations…. Sad all around
 
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I find it bizarre and disturbing that people on different forums are celebrating this.

Clearly the watch was already stolen, and the owner decided to pursue the thieves, and this resulted in gunshots that endangered others, and leading to the owner ramming other cars. All this over a watch? Let’s get some perspective here...
 
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If nobody was hurt and the thieves were caught, I think we all have something to celebrate.
 
ghce
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Just another perspective on this, the criminal actions took place in Bogota, a place not known for outstanding rule of law and the various protections enjoyed by other more civil society's.
Who knows what insurances are available.
Would I have done this in his position? Actually quite likely as I have never been been known to run from a fight and indeed have on several occasions chased and apprehended burglars and have always stood for my rights and those of others.
I can see where this guy was coming from.
 
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Just another perspective on this, the criminal actions took place in Bogota, a place not known for outstanding rule of law and the various protections enjoyed by other more civil society's.
Who knows what insurances are available.
Would I have done this in his position? Actually quite likely as I have never been been known to run from a fight and indeed have on several occasions chased and apprehended burglars and have always stood for my rights and those of others.
I can see where this guy was coming from.

You raise an interesting point about what lens we are using to judge the actions of the driver. I would personally withhold my opinion until I heard from people who live there, and intimately know how life is on a daily basis, and the efficacy and morality of the local law enforcement.

To be clear: my bias is that putting the life of innocent others at risk to recover a timepiece would be hard to justify from any perspective.
 
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I find it bizarre and disturbing that people on different forums are celebrating this.

Clearly the watch was already stolen, and the owner decided to pursue the thieves, and this resulted in gunshots that endangered others, and leading to the owner ramming other cars. All this over a watch? Let’s get some perspective here...

This is a sticky one: the owner knew who stole his watch, was he within his rights to peruse the criminals if, prior to the shots, he was not endangering anyone?
 
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