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Schizophrenic. A thunderstorm out of a sunny blue sky.
 
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Today is cooler, but yesterday (10th) was the hottest day on record since 1888. It was 36.4 ° C. Converted, that is 97.5° F. But elsewhere in the province of Alberta, it was over 40° C. That’s about 104°! Air advisory warnings. Record smoke from fires in British Columbia, to the west of us. On August 2, we had a record hail storm with golf ball sized hail stones (no kidding) that took 10 panes of glass out of out greenhouse! We were away, camping, so my truck is okay. But my 11-year old daily driver would be a write off. But still driveable.
 
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I was reading up on droughts through history and found much of Canada was once declared uninhabitable because of heatwaves and droughts. rivers drying up to a trickle and most of the larger animal life dying off. Those were records from the 17th through mid 19th century.
 
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I have read that 90% of the population of Canada lives within 100 miles of the U S border. It’s not that anywhere further north is uninhabitable. We are about 150 miles north of the border. I don’t know who would have been compiling those statistics about droughts, lakes and rivers drying up, species dying off, and the general uninhabitable nature of our climate, in the 17th and 18th century. But all in all, we’re reasonably well off.
 
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I have read that 90% of the population of Canada lives within 100 miles of the U S border. It’s not that anywhere further north is uninhabitable. We are about 150 miles north of the border. I don’t know who would have been compiling those statistics about droughts, lakes and rivers drying up, species dying off, and the general uninhabitable nature of our climate, in the 17th and 18th century. But all in all, we’re reasonably well off.
It was trappers and fur company traders and mapping expeditions into the wild. Just giving an idea how things can change for better or worse.
The worst weather conditions ever recorded in North America were in the 17th and 18th centuries and things were far worse than that in precolonial times. Droughts, floods, storms, you name it, we've had it pretty good for the last couple of centuries.
 
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It was trappers and fur company traders and mapping expeditions into the wild. Just giving an idea how things can change for better or worse.
The worst weather conditions ever recorded in North America were in the 17th and 18th centuries and things were far worse than that in precolonial times. Droughts, floods, storms, you name it, we've had it pretty good for the last couple of centuries.

The 17th century was 1601 to 1700. The 18th century was 1701 to 1800. My question is valid. In what was to become Canada later on, who would have been around compiling such statistics? Trappers, fur traders, mapping expeditions? Not a lot of that kind of activity by anyone who might be amassing statistics, that early. I doubt Champlain made it out of Lower Canada (as the area was called at that time). And, um, what does this all have to do with the current weather.
 
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Started cloudy but clearing skies and warmed to mid 60's today in Minnesota.
oh, that's right next to where i'm living atm.
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Family are on holiday in the south of France for school holidays until end August. I left last Sunday to come back to London for work... then there were once in a decade storms on Monday, it rained 150-200mm in one night, when the average is 300mm over 5 months of spring and summer. Mrs K sent me photos next day...

One old oak tree lost branches, another fell collapsing an old stone wall and missing the car by a metre....

I’m still in London, don’t go back until next weekend - and just heard a storm is due tonight... restless night and fingers crossed they are all ok tmw am..

 
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The 17th century was 1601 to 1700. The 18th century was 1701 to 1800. My question is valid. In what was to become Canada later on, who would have been around compiling such statistics? Trappers, fur traders, mapping expeditions? Not a lot of that kind of activity by anyone who might be amassing statistics, that early. I doubt Champlain made it out of Lower Canada (as the area was called at that time). And, um, what does this all have to do with the current weather.
The worst droughts were before the 19th century and trading companies kept detailed records in those days as did any military expedition. most especially records on water levels of lakes and rivers, since there was no other method of moving large loads for great distances.

The main mapping expedition was in the 19th century
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The Palliser Expedition
Captain John Palliser - an explorer and geographer - was funded by the British government to embark on a scientific exploration in present-day western Canada. His purpose was to survey the land (and whether there was any potential for agriculture) and explore possible routes for the Canadian Pacific Railway. Palliser’s adventure became known as the “Palliser Expedition”, and lasted from 1857 - 1860.

When Palliser arrived in western Canada the region was in the midst of a multi-decade drought. Palliser explored what is now known as the “Palliser Triangle” - a triangular area of about 200,000 square kilometres that spans present-day southern Saskatchewan and southeastern Alberta. The Palliser Triangle is now considered to be both the breadbasket of the country, but also the driest part of the Canadian Prairie provinces. Palliser famously declared the region as being unsuitable for settlement - it was simply too dry. "

Canada had as many or more Buffalo as the United States ever had, yet the Buffalo(or bison) went all but extinct in Canada largely due to drought conditions.

Just pointing out that heatwaves and droughts are nothing new. They've happened before and they will happen again.
 
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Buffalo disappeared because of lakes and rivers drying up? Sorry. The original name for Regina, Saskatchewan (or Assiniboia as it was known then) was “Pile o’ Bones”. Buffalo were used by the indigenous for food and shelter. They took what they needed to survive. Records exist of buffalo herds requiring days to pass any given point, when they migrated. Then came the white man and the railroads. Buffalo were slaughtered by the millions, carcasses left to rot hides shipped away. Here is a picture taken at Pile o’ Bones during those days. Buffalo died out because of environmental factors? Hardly! This thread is no longer about “the weather in your area today”, so this will be my last comment on this particular matter.

 
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I agree, totally! 😁
 
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Buffalo disappeared because of lakes and rivers drying up? Sorry. The original name for Regina, Saskatchewan (or Assiniboia as it was known then) was “Pile o’ Bones”. Buffalo were used by the indigenous for food and shelter. They took what they needed to survive. Records exist of buffalo herds requiring days to pass any given point, when they migrated. Then came the white man and the railroads. Buffalo were slaughtered by the millions, carcasses left to rot hides shipped away. Here is a picture taken at Pile o’ Bones during those days. Buffalo died out because of environmental factors? Hardly! This thread is no longer about “the weather in your area today”, so this will be my last comment on this particular matter.

I'll let you argue that with the historians. Fact is that during the 19th century drought conditions were so bad that they pushed the Bison to near extinction and hunting pushed them over the edge.
Ever wonder why anyone would bother to stack up old dried bones by the mega ton? Ground up bones are fertilizer and used for other industrial purposes. It doesn't matter one little bit to those harvesting the bones whether they died out from starvation and thirst or a .50 sharps rifle slug.
A friend once showed me a cavern on his grandfather's farm. in that cavern were the bones of thousands of cattle euthanized due to some disease a century before.

https://albertawater.com/history-of-drought-in-alberta
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Decimation of the Bison Population
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"Bison With Texture" by Pam Morris is is licenced under CC BY 2.0.
In the late 1790s, a decimation of the bison population began. Bison were a primary source of food and materials for Alberta’s first human residents [3].

However, as more Europeans began arriving in the region (Europeans had been coming to the West since the 17th century), they started to hunt the bison population for food and also with the purpose of negatively affecting the Aboriginal population [4].

During the eight decades (1791 - 1873) that Europeans were hunting the bison, there was also a multi-decadal drought. The drought impacted water supply for humans, and also reduced the water supply and available forage for the bison. The drought and the ongoing hunting efforts decimated the bison herds “nearly to extinction” [5]."
 
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Low cloud and drizzle 🙁 at least it is mild 😀