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The UG x Benrus Skychief mystery

  1. whitedot Oct 3, 2015

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    Last discussed here.

    I found another one. Identical, save red chrono seconds hand and import code that appears to start with a Z, possibly ZX - I can't make out the last letter. Case measures ~32mm.

    Here's the intriguing part. Caseback is engraved with a pilot's name and 1939. I was able to track the guy down in the news archives. Benrus presented him with a Sky Chief.

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    IMO, the dial has been retouched.

    Thoughts?
     
    Edited Oct 3, 2015
  2. woodwkr2 Oct 8, 2015

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    The subdial appears to have been redone. The 6 o'clock subdial hand looks like it was cut down or clipped at an angle.

    These are quite odd. Any other pictures?

    Would love to see the news article you found...
     
  3. whitedot Oct 14, 2015

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    Edited Oct 14, 2015
  4. woodwkr2 Oct 16, 2015

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    Wow! That's how you document the provence of an odd watch. Congrats! You've added a new and unusual example to the UG repertoire. I wonder if these were a one off type thing for TWA
     
  5. Duchene1 May 31, 2017

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  6. Duchene1 May 31, 2017

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    I k ow this is an old post. But i have one of these as well
     
  7. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 1, 2017

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    There's a third post in these also that's more recent. There is a somewhat interesting discussion of the dial variation or not in it.

    We would love to see yours.
     
  8. Duchene1 Jun 1, 2017

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    Help????
     
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  9. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 1, 2017

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    Wow dial shot?
     
  10. Duchene1 Jun 1, 2017

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  11. Duchene1 Jun 1, 2017

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  12. Duchene1 Jun 1, 2017

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    The name engraved on the back of the watch is Captain George K rice I was able to research him a little bit and this photo comes from an archive at Aviation Museum in Missouri Captain George K rice is on the far right
     
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  13. Duchene1 Jun 1, 2017

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    Whats the trade value of this to a collector?
     
  14. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 1, 2017

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    That's something you will have to research yourself these don't come up often and you have an interesting full set.
     
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  15. Mlafra Jun 1, 2017

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    Duchene1, what are the dimensions (diameter) of the watch? From the pic it looks quite small, like 32/33mm (excluding crown)?
    Is the movement still working and the chronograph functioning (a part from obviously needing a service)? Is the bezel rotating freely? I cannot see the pointer that should be present in these bezels.

    If the dimension is indeed 32/33mm and considering the relatively poor condition of the dial it will have a very limited market appeal, as it will considered too small and also not well preserved enough. That being said it is indeed true that it is an interesting watch and the set makes it interesting, but only to hard core collectors as oppose to people that buy to wear and/or buy to speculate.
    Me for istance I could be interested as a collector item, but I would never wear it

    I guess that best way would be to put it on Ebay and see what it does.
     
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  16. waXology Jun 1, 2017

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    You can see the red arrow of the rotating bezel in the pic of it sitting in the box.

    Certainly an intriguing watch that is for sure. The arabic numbering and the serial seem to fit the period of 39' i believe.
     
  17. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jun 1, 2017

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    Dunno .... another rare bird in the UG aviary. This with a full set and interesting provenance. Could also be of interest to aviation collectors. TWA is an iconic brand. It's very cool but as a display item. I'd research it carefully.
     
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  18. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Jun 1, 2017

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    Great find! Thank you VERY much for sharing.
     
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  19. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jun 1, 2017

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    +1
     
  20. ConElPueblo Jun 1, 2017

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    Speaking as complete layman, the numerals are identical to my 1940 Eterna and are certainly Bauhaus influenced :)


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    Nice watch!
     
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