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  1. _awatchsnob_ Apr 19, 2020

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    Very nice example, and I would say correct price
     
  2. Mark020 not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer Apr 20, 2020

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    Care to elaborate?
     
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  3. Mark020 not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer May 28, 2020

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    Another nice one at Phillips
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  4. martinc May 29, 2020

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  5. ELV web May 29, 2020

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    Yep Edit: I think I should add to this too short an answer of “yep”

    -dial quality looks good (Courtesy of Mark posting after this post) but for instance the minute counter subdial compared to the 2 pictures in my lower post has much bigger fonts
    -no lume dial against lumed hands is a concern
    -“Swiss made” at 6 o’clock is a concern (should either be “Swiss” or nothing)
    -crown replaced with a U crown (should be plain like my 2 posts after this). Could the dial be serviced and crown replaced by UG at a later stage, that is also a possibility (given it seems like a 60s U crown and the pretty well made dial with odd sub dial minute counter fonts compared to other early 40s aeros as well as “Swiss made” and lack of lume on the dial despite lumed hands)
     
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  6. Mark020 not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer May 29, 2020

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    Forgot to post the link: https://www.phillips.com/detail/universal/CH080120/182

    Quote:
    "The present example is undoubtedly one of the most charismatic and best preserved examples to appear in an auction room: the case did not suffer invasive polishing and perfectly retains its proportions. The dial as well not only is unrestored, but it furthermore arrives to us in impeccable condition: an unusual occurrence as this kind of dials tend to age with spotting and oxidation marks. The only hint to the passage of time is instead, in this instance, a supremely attractive and even ivory patina."
     
  7. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. May 29, 2020

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    Ok Hands Lumed/No evidence of dial lume from pics. I don't think this is a redial however. After the last Aero Kerfuffle, never say never.
     
  8. Mark020 not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer May 29, 2020

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  9. ELV web May 29, 2020

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    “Swiss made” just doesn’t look right.
     
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  10. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. May 29, 2020

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    Possibly ... but the overall dial looks kosher.
     
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  11. bgrisso May 29, 2020

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    although there are some unusual things about the dial, my gut says its OK. The main crown obviously replaced, perhaps the left as well ?
     
  12. ELV web May 29, 2020

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    Another sample of same reference. Note that there is no “Swiss made” and there are lumes on the dial matching the hands.
     
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  13. ELV web May 29, 2020

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    No lume configuration (also original) edit: disclosure I used to own this, parted with it in 2016.
     
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  14. ELV web May 29, 2020

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    Not supposed to have “U” on the crown
     
  15. yala May 29, 2020

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    Plus one.
     
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  16. bgrisso May 29, 2020

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    Do you mean the fact that it says "swiss made" at all is wrong, or you feel the actual printing of the the "swiss made" is wrong? It's obviously very uncommon to see swiss made on examples from this time period, but you do seem them occasionally. Here's an example, and I've definitely seen others, but not very often. It's a bit hard to judge the swiss made text on the Aero as it's getting distorted by the crystal. Although I haven't followed the link to study in detail.

    Anyhow I don't have a strong opinion, there are some things odd on the phillips watch, but I'm also cautious to say redial without doing a fair amount of research, especially with UG, and also especially with Aeros, I just feel the dials are a bit all over the place, even for UG ?
     
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  17. jumpingsecond May 29, 2020

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    Where is the 'oh no not another UG dial' gun to the head emoji ??
     
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  18. yala May 29, 2020

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    My personal rule of thumb: watches from the 40‘s were marked „Swiss“, early 40‘s were umarked like 30‘s dials - and that‘s why i second „it doesn‘t look right“ on this Aero.
     
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  19. bgrisso May 29, 2020

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    sure, I agree as a general rule of thumb, but it's the exceptions that get complicated.......

    The outdoorsman above is 40s, what do you feel about that dial ?

    I've seen other similar time period examples with Swiss Made, and the dials I find completely convincing.
     
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  20. Mark020 not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer May 29, 2020

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    Mods: is it an idea to change the topic title to something like ‘The big aero compax thread’?