Forums Latest Members

The Time 4A Pint Podcast #25: Heuer Chronographs of the Past and Present with Ewan

  1. tyrantlizardrex Oct 13, 2017

    Posts
    8,881
    Likes
    27,410
    For Episode 25 of the Time 4A Pint Podcast, we got together with @ewand to talk about Heuers of the past, and TAG Heuers of the present... that are dressed up to look like Heuers of the past. Or at least their close relatives.

    heuercarrerablack1153N.jpg

    Pay attention, there's a lot of good stuff crammed into the next 40 minutes!

    Watches on this week's show:

    • Heuer Carrera ref. RCS3111

    • Heuer Carrera GMT ref. WS2113

    • Heuer Monaco ref. CAW211P

    • Heuer Carrera ref. 1153S

    • Heuer Carrera ref. 1153N

    • Heuer Camaro ref. 73343N
    Listen Now!

    If you like what you hear, please leave a Star Rating or Review on iTunes.

    And, as always, feedback/discussion welcomed (that doesn't mean I'll do what you want, but I'll listen ;)).
     
    Tab and ewand like this.
  2. ewand Oct 13, 2017

    Posts
    1,290
    Likes
    5,852
    Thanks Chris - some corrections and additions :)

    • The big difference (which is actually pretty noticeable) between the CS3111 reissue "Carrera" and the original 2447N is that the reissue doesn't say "Carrera" on the dial (in fact, none of the Classic reissues did)

      From OnTheDash: (
      10Car2447NPoly[1].jpg
      vs CS3111:
      upload_2017-10-13_14-34-45.png
      (as you can see the reedition has numerals around the dial, similar to the 2447NT

    • The Steve McQueen 40th anniversary reissue Monaco (CAW211A) was a limited edition which paved the way for the standard production CAW211P. See https://www.calibre11.com/first-look-heuer-monaco-calibre-11-mcqueen-chronograph/ for comparisons with these two, the TAG Heuer branded blue-dial Monaco that was marketed using Steve McQueen, and the original 1133B blue-dial Monaco (with the tell-tale fluted pushers rather than rectangular ones which all the modern ones have)

      Here's the CAW211A and CAW211P side by side - (the A was from 2009, the P from 2016)
      upload_2017-10-13_14-43-26.png


    • The very earliest Cal11 watches (Monaco, Autavia & Carrera) had "Chronomatic" on the dial; but after a few months, Breitling bought the name "Chrono-matic" and Heuer stopped branding their watches as such. The 1153N Carrera in question must be one of the early post-Chronomatic ones, as the serial is less than 200 later than the early A&F watch that's for sale at Phillips - https://issuu.com/phillipsauction/docs/ch080317_catalog/26

    • When I said "they brought the Autavia, Monaco and Carrera out at the same time" - I meant, the Cal11 automatics... both Autavia and Carrera were available as manual-wind watches before

    • The Camaro actually pre-dated the automatics too; my Camaro is from 1971/2 but the first Camaros appeared in 1968.

    • The Books on Carrera (http://www.blurb.co.uk/b/7893494-heuer-carrera-chronographs-1963-85), Monaco (http://www.blurb.com/b/7509336-heuer-monaco-design-classic) and Autavia (http://www.blurb.co.uk/b/7842069-heuer-autavia-chronographs-1962-85)
     
    Edited Oct 13, 2017
  3. Nathan1967 Oct 19, 2017

    Posts
    1,413
    Likes
    2,836
    • The big difference (which is actually pretty noticeable) between the CS3111 reissue "Carrera" and the original 2447N is that the reissue doesn't say "Carrera" on the dial (in fact, none of the Classic reissues did)

      From OnTheDash: (
      View attachment 453413
      vs CS3111:
      View attachment 453414
    I’ve an admission to make and I probably shouldn’t say it but...........I actually prefer the reissue. :whistling: Please forgive me Heuer cognoscenti!
     
    tyrantlizardrex likes this.