The Queens Patek

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Not sure the royals are allowed to accept large gifts from commercial entities or even other governments. IIRC, they have a pretty strict policy about this.

A SmithS watch was given to King George VI on his visit to Bishops Cleeve (SmithS factory) circa 1944 iirc. Sadly, the watch can't be traced, as it would be one of the very first SmithS wrist watches, but it is recorded. Certainly the Royal family have vast stores of gifts from Governments, Queen Victoria used to store many of them, particularly those from India, at Osbourne House.
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Try living in the UK mate.
The saturated coverage is even worse than I feared.😡
Every terrestrial TV station seems to be full of it and the radio stations are playing maudlin music mostly sung by Adele.🤬
I'm not buying a newspaper for another 2 weeks because they'll have pages after pages about her and her vastly over extended family and how wonderful they are.
In case anyone not living in the UK is wondering, we're not all royalists here.
Personally I was hoping Brenda would be the last and that would be that.
Rant over, for now
 
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A SmithS watch was given to King George VI on his visit to Bishops Cleeve (SmithS factory) circa 1944 iirc. Sadly, the watch can't be traced, as it would be one of the very first SmithS wrist watches, but it is recorded. Certainly the Royal family have vast stores of gifts from Governments, Queen Victoria used to store many of them, particularly those from India, at Osbourne House.

The policies are much more recent that that. I searched the internet and found official and reliable policies documented, including a detailed document on the royal.uk website. Low value gifts are generally permitted in the context of an official visit. If you want to read the policies for yourself, you're welcome to make your own interpretations.
 
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The saturated coverage is even worse than I feared.😡
Every terrestrial TV station seems to be full of it and the radio stations are playing maudlin music mostly sung by Adele.🤬
I'm not buying a newspaper for another 2 weeks because they'll have pages after pages about her and her vastly over extended family and how wonderful they are.
In case anyone not living in the UK is wondering, we're not all royalists here.
Personally I was hoping Brenda would be the last and that would be that.
Rant over, for now
I have a couple friends from England who express almost a disdain for how monarchy is funded (that seems to be their main gripe) I can’t really grasp the full impact of that being in the US but as I’m a bit of a history buff I find keeping such an “ancient” symbol going. My wife and I were in the process of getting tickets to Scotland right before Covid hit. That would have allowed us to visit England and I was looking forward to seeing the palaces of the monarchy.

Early US history goes back to the 1600’s with the Spanish settling St. Augustine. So that predates Jamestown but when I went to Nanking China it was the capital thousands of years before Christ. (I’m going by a not awake memory here these are rough estimates but feel free to correct me if you like)

But for the past 70 years the monarchy was defined by one person. (I guess monarchy usually is but you know what I mean) Funny there was a move to make Washington king to which he told that group “man you dudes crazy”

I guess I’m just wondering if the zeal in England will remain with Charles on the throne? I still hope to get to the British empire at some point but we have yet to discuss it seriously yet.

That Netflix series also made me a fan of the queen I’m easily swayed.
 
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But for the past 70 years the monarchy was defined by one person. (I guess monarchy usually is but you know what I mean) Funny there was a move to make Washington king to which he told that group “man you dudes crazy”.

I was recently in Annapolis where Washington tendered his resignation. It was thought provoking and meaningful but he may not have been totally right about his decision.

As a Brit I’m fairly agnostic about monarchy, but for most of my life have edged towards the view that unelected power was a problem. However, the death of the Queen and immediately accession of the King got me thinking that there’s something to be said for that constancy, and besides, the current monarchy is powerless, but has influence. The Royal family is a good role model for values that our politicians have abandoned: duty, service, and, for the most part, integrity. Our country is in rapid decline at the moment thanks largely to self-serving corrupt politicians. The Monarchy is a reminder of the values this country ought to be aiming to uphold.
 
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Early US history goes back to the 1600’s with the Spanish settling St. Augustine. So that predates Jamestown but when I went to Nanking China it was the capital thousands of years before Christ. (I’m going by a not awake memory here these are rough estimates but feel free to correct me if you like)
It's really good to have that perspective. Compared with the Middle Kingdom, even the Vatican is a bit short-termist. And we all know the Americas had kingdoms and empires before Columbus. So the whole "historicke olde Englande" bit is played up a bit (and very enjoyable it is too), with what Bagehot called the "dignified" (trans. "Disneyfied") side of the British establishment playing its part. The turning point for the "efficient" (executive) side was 1689, when the politicians finally won out over royalty. I don't really think their kings and queens can be personally blamed for the sins of empire after that date.

But for the past 70 years the [British] monarchy was defined by one person.
And thank goodness. The job seems to be very broadly what you choose to make of it, so with a different incumbent it could have gone down the tubes, breaking a lot of furniture on the way. With a recluse, a playboy, and a suspected fascist holding the office within living memory, a decent guy like the Queen's dad (George VI, "The King's Speech" and all that) was just the re-set the institution needed. And then his daughter Elizabeth held together the UK's idea of itself during 70 years (hey, that's more than a quarter of the life of the United States!) when the old country changed out of all recognition. In the wider world, it became increasingly helpful as time went by for democratic leaders to hear from her, "This has happened before - and here are the private views on the situation of Eisenhower, Churchill, de Gaulle, Gandhi, Mandela, Thatcher...". This is not an act that can be repeated, and it would be really unfair for Prince Charles to be judged on those standards. Like being the successor to Lombardi or Ferguson, you can't win really.

But what I like about the British set-up is, no matter how rich the political leader, the crown is richer. No matter how many terms they try to get, the crown is around longer. And if Netflix are looking for the perfect finish, how about the Queen's final official activity - just two days(!) before she passed - when in the space of one morning she threw a scoundrel out of the prime minister's office and appointed the third female British head of the government in history.

(Nice watches too of course!)
 
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So many mixed opinions which is fine but I was honoured to have security clearance to work in many royal properties and although I never had the honour of meeting her majesty I can assure you that all the staff I came in to contact with had nothing but affection for her majesty.
On one occasion I was working late and security advised that her majesty often came through the area I was working in and she may stop for a chat but I was just to hold a normal conversation if she came over to me, sadly that did not happen.
A wonderful lady and sadly missed.
 
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Proper (?) colonial here, 5th generation kiwi residing in Australia, of predominantly British stock.
The pros and cons of monarchical vs republicanism systems can go on infinitum but the constitutional monarchy such as the British model has its pluses. Russia 1917 is just one example of a king losing touch and the confidence of his people (a subject about which Edward VII had counseled his cousin Nicholas), and the usurping of power by an elected (?) head of State (Belorus, Russia again and USA 2020 as examples) are at the other end of the spectrum.

One can only admire Elizabeth for her (admittedly richly rewarded) service and the smooth argument-free transition of Charles to the throne should have many admirers on all sides.

I fully expect Australia to become a republic but I pray that the head of state will be entirely ceremonial and an appointment of parliament rather than a vote by the populace. In the meantime, long live the King.
 
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I'm no royalist, but the contrast between the late Queen and the rag-tag rogue's gallery of politicians is clear.

The Queen served the people.

The politicians (mostly) screwed the people.
 
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It's really good to have that perspective. Compared with the Middle Kingdom, even the Vatican is a bit short-termist.

I read an article recently that Cleopatra had archeologists working on the pyramid at Giza...so ancient Egyptians had ancient archeologists...their own culture was ancient to them.
 
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So many mixed opinions which is fine but I was honoured to have security clearance to work in many royal properties and although I never had the honour of meeting her majesty I can assure you that all the staff I came in to contact with had nothing but affection for her majesty.
On one occasion I was working late and security advised that her majesty often came through the area I was working in and she may stop for a chat but I was just to hold a normal conversation if she came over to me, sadly that did not happen.
A wonderful lady and sadly missed.

Like many others in the military, I sore an oath to the Queen and her successors when I joined. My wife swore a similar other when she became a Canadian citizen (despite already being from Australia, a Commonwealth country).

There will always be people who don't want the monarchy for various reasons, some of them perfectly valid. For Canada, getting rid of it and becoming a republic would open a constitutional can of worms that I'm sure no government would want to deal with, so I suspect we will stick to having now King Charles III as our head of state, with the Governor General, and various Lieutenant Governor's as his local representatives.

Personally, I'm fine with that.