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The New Seamaster Pro 300M Diver in Titanium Bronze Gold, Green Dial & Bezel, Cal 8806 Non-Date
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josiahg52
路I'd like to see the dial in person, looks nice overall, but not for me. Maybe no date and different dial textures are the future.
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brasky80
路It's nice, but all they are doing is providing new colorways and mixed metals on a base design that has been around for a couple of decades. I don't know how excited the average person is going to get about that.
But then again, I own a Globemaster, which seems like a generally unloved entry in the Omega stable.
But then again, I own a Globemaster, which seems like a generally unloved entry in the Omega stable.
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Trev
路路The ArchitectIt's nice, but all they are doing is providing new colorways and mixed metals on a base design that has been around for a couple of decades. I don't know how excited the average person is going to get about that.
But then again, I own a Globemaster, which seems like a generally unloved entry in the Omega stable.
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Speed2Sea
路The Harrod鈥檚 Tudor (which I assume inspired this reference?) is more attractive imo. Can鈥檛 imagine there being much of a market for this, but, then, I鈥檓 sure Omega knows what they鈥檙e doing.
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Jakeys
路It's nice, but all they are doing is providing new colorways and mixed metals on a base design that has been around for a couple of decades. I don't know how excited the average person is going to get about that.
Yep, the coolest was the black, but even then it wasn't groundbreaking. I completely disagree with the occasional perspective that this is "the new Seamaster" range. These are retro inspired new colourways on the existing SMP generation. I expect when a new gen SMP comes we'll definitely know about it.
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ErichPryde
路I appreciate your perspective, but as an owner of a Tudar Harrod's this new Omega has a completely different look, not to mention the dial on the Harrod's is black. Cheers
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Mute
路I'd take this over the NTTD for sure even though I'm not a fan of the NTTD and the fauxtina look.
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dkr
路It's nice, but all they are doing is providing new colorways and mixed metals on a base design that has been around for a couple of decades. I don't know how excited the average person is going to get about that.
But then again, I own a Globemaster, which seems like a generally unloved entry in the Omega stable.
Meanwhile, the 300M range is crying out for a GMT variant. I went into a boutique in NYC last week to check out the new FOIS while wearing my 2525.80 on OEM milanese and the sales guy was stoked to see "the old blue GMT".
2x GMT variants Omega need to make - a Ti version based on the Nekton with a red GMT hand and 24hr bezel. And a "great white" based on the white dial, also with red GMT hand and 24hr ceramic bezel. I couldn't throw my cash at Omega fast enough...
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PandaSPUR
路I really like this one. Iffy on the two tone, would've rather they made the whole thing bronze gold tbh.
If the other green SMP is seaweed, i wanna call this one the oak.
^ oak green metallic
If the other green SMP is seaweed, i wanna call this one the oak.
^ oak green metallic
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ErichPryde
路Yep, massively underwhelmed by the drip feed of recet models.
Meanwhile, the 300M range is crying out for a GMT variant. I went into a boutique in NYC last week to check out the new FOIS while wearing my 2525.80 on OEM milanese and the sales guy was stoked to see "the old blue GMT".
2x GMT variants Omega need to make - a Ti version based on the Nekton with a red GMT hand and 24hr bezel. And a "great white" based on the white dial, also with red GMT hand and 24hr ceramic bezel. I couldn't throw my cash at Omega fast enough...
Throw the GMT on the heritage line. I'd say AT, but there's already a worldtimer- and it would give a bit more bite to a line that currently only offers a 300m dive watch.
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dsio
路路Ash @ 惟FI鈥檓
Need to mark that NSFW, 911s in green with gold wheels are the absolute best... I'm going to need a moment. 馃槼
I really like this one. Iffy on the two tone, would've rather they made the whole thing bronze gold tbh.
If the other green SMP is seaweed, i wanna call this one the oak.
^ oak green metallic
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路路Ash @ 惟FYep, massively underwhelmed by the drip feed of recet models.
Meanwhile, the 300M range is crying out for a GMT variant. I went into a boutique in NYC last week to check out the new FOIS while wearing my 2525.80 on OEM milanese and the sales guy was stoked to see "the old blue GMT".
2x GMT variants Omega need to make - a Ti version based on the Nekton with a red GMT hand and 24hr bezel. And a "great white" based on the white dial, also with red GMT hand and 24hr ceramic bezel. I couldn't throw my cash at Omega fast enough...
The current Planet Ocean GMT is a hockey puck at ~17.5mm, it's just enormous compared to the old Great White GMT, and they're still without a mid-size Seamaster Pro 300M for nearly a decade now which is a big deal not just for women but also for the entire Asian market where 42mm is less popular.
The Cal 8800 over 8900 let them trim down the Seamaster Pro as much as possible for the initial Cal 8xxx version but it was still thick, this new non-date 8806 variant is thinner, which is great for sure but they're still half a mil above the Cal 2500D and that's on their thinnest diver.
Trev is trying to sell some other watches and swap into a Seamaster 300 Cal 8400 or an OG Hour Vision at the moment, but even the SM300 which is 14.7mm is just too much.
Once they get it under 13mm for a main production Seamaster Pro, then they'd be better off adding things like a GMT hand or other complications but they're still not quite there yet imo. They're still fine for me since I have Orc wrists but we're the exception not the rule.
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ErichPryde
路I鈥檓
Need to mark that NSFW, 911s in green with gold wheels are the absolute best... I'm going to need a moment. 馃槼
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ErichPryde
路Trev is trying to sell some other watches and swap into a Seamaster 300 Cal 8400 or an OG Hour Vision at the moment, but even the SM300 which is 14.7mm is just too much.
The 8400 SM300 is 14.95mm thick, and a lot of that **is in the case as the crystal is only very slightly domed. I absolutely love the dial on that watch... but it has one of the, possibly the chunkiest no-date case of any Omega.
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路路Ash @ 惟FThe 8400 SM300 is 14.95mm thick, and a lot of that **is in the case as the crystal is only very slightly domed. I absolutely love the dial on that watch... but it has one of the, possibly the chunkiest no-date case of any Omega.
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The Planet Ocean is the one that has just gotten far too silly even prior to the Ultra-Deep, there's definitely a market for a big diver, and the Ploprof and Ultradeep along with maybe some of the special ceramic Planet Oceans do fill that space. The average person though simply can't wear what they market as a mens a Planet Ocean anymore and it didn't used to be like that at all, the Liquid Metal Limited Edition Planet Ocean, which is still IMO the best PO ever made, was only 14.5mm and 42mm diameter.
The only model that actually looks good on most men is the ladies' Planet Ocean which is 39.5mm x 14.2mm which is actually a quite wearable watch. WHY they call it the ladies' version when it is bigger than mid-size used to be, and suitable for 90% of men more than the "men's" version which was designed for giants, I honestly don't know.
That's just my rant though on the weird approach to the PO line. Be a real man, wear the ladies' version if you're buying a PO, it's the smart thing to do.
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Jakeys
路I think the big issue they have right now, before the GMT issue is addressed, although I recognise your point entirely, is that Omega's dive watch range is still too thick despite them having worked on it a lot in recent years.
The current Planet Ocean GMT is a hockey puck at ~17.5mm, it's just enormous compared to the old Great White GMT, and they're still without a mid-size Seamaster Pro 300M for nearly a decade now which is a big deal not just for women but also for the entire Asian market where 42mm is less popular.
The Cal 8800 over 8900 let them trim down the Seamaster Pro as much as possible for the initial Cal 8xxx version but it was still thick, this new non-date 8806 variant is thinner, which is great for sure but they're still half a mil above the Cal 2500D and that's on their thinnest diver.
Trev is trying to sell some other watches and swap into a Seamaster 300 Cal 8400 or an OG Hour Vision at the moment, but even the SM300 which is 14.7mm is just too much.
Once they get it under 13mm for a main production Seamaster Pro, then they'd be better off adding things like a GMT hand or other complications but they're still not quite there yet imo. They're still fine for me since I have Orc wrists but we're the exception not the rule.
Couldn't agree more, but the next gen being under 13 mm feels optimistic to me. I do expect a reduction in thickness, but I think it will be marginal, maybe mid to low 13's. Considering the 2220.80 with the 2500D was 12.6 mm, I can't see how they can achieve sub 13 with a half mil thicker movement and ceramics. I'm kinda hopeful they drop the shiny ceramic dial next gen, but I can't see them dropping the ceramic bezel outside of vintage references.
the Liquid Metal Limited Edition Planet Ocean, which is still IMO the best PO ever made
Agreed 馃挴. If I was going to buy any PO, it's this one.
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路路Ash @ 惟FCouldn't agree more, but the next gen being under 13 mm feels optimistic to me. I do expect a reduction in thickness, but I think it will be marginal, maybe mid to low 13's. Considering the 2220.80 with the 2500D was 12.6 mm, I can't see how they can achieve sub 13 with a half mil thicker movement and ceramics. I'm kinda hopeful they drop the shiny ceramic dial next gen, but I can't see them dropping the ceramic bezel outside of vintage references.
Agreed 馃挴. If I was going to buy any PO, it's this one.
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Jakeys
路One possibility is the new PloProf Summer Blue case got rid of the caseback in favor of being a front-loader, in the process they went from 16.6mm on the previous generation down to 15.5mm on the new one with the same movement, that sort of thing I鈥檇 be pretty down for if the Ploprof was their way of testing that approach to case design.
Interesting, I didn't know about that. That seems like it would be quite the departure for the SMP. I think I'd prefer they kept the screw down caseback but just got rid of the sapphire display back instead. I love a display back, but if dropping that helps to get a reasonably thin SMP again, that's a worthwhile trade.
