I have spent some time over at WUS and have seen some pretty dismal advise but I think this takes the cake! http://forums.watchuseek.com/f20/normal-2500d-need-some-shakes-restart-after-winding-932010.html I just can't believe the tools over there who think they are experts...I don't know if any of you know any of the moderators over there, but as a moderator I'd think they would be better informed!