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Also, reading @Archer discussing the technical differences and advantages of different grips (that are way above my head at this point - I’m just using the continental if I’m even doing that right 😕) after a couple years of reading and benefiting from your technical watchmaking analysis is pretty neat. Part of what I really enjoy about this forum is the way you get to see how different user’s personalities, approaches to life / problem solving / sport, and enthusiasm for the things they enjoy are reflected in their posts.

So cheers OF. I find most of you to be pretty swell.
 
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I started taking lessons with my wife. She wanted to learn a sport/game together and I obliged.

5 months in and I'm hooked. Really enjoyable, and when you hit that sweet spot; it's pretty gratifying. Started learning to do single backhand but my preparation is always slow (im a rather big / slow guy).

However, if I am able to time my preparation early, man the shot is always almost sweet.
 
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Yes, let's hear it for the single-hander! So beautiful to see, so satisfying to hit. Thank goodness Feds kept the faith through all the dark years (big up to Henin, Gasquet, Wawrinka too), and now there's lots of youngsters doing it again. Man - that Shapovalov! 👍
 
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Also, reading @Archer discussing the technical differences and advantages of different grips (that are way above my head at this point - I’m just using the continental if I’m even doing that right 😕) after a couple years of reading and benefiting from your technical watchmaking analysis is pretty neat. Part of what I really enjoy about this forum is the way you get to see how different user’s personalities, approaches to life / problem solving / sport, and enthusiasm for the things they enjoy are reflected in their posts.

So cheers OF. I find most of you to be pretty swell.

Well, as you might have guessed, I'm a pretty technical person all around. 😀

My previous sport of archery was very technical, focused very much on equipment and form/technique, so that is was I gravitate to naturally.

I have to work a bit to get myself out of that mode, and just focus on a few key things when playing. But as much as someone said not to take it too seriously or benchmarking against others, that's what drives me to play. It's what I get enjoyment out of, along with the people I play with and against. I'm usually very pleased if I play well, even if I lose. I'm least happy when I don't play well, even if I win.

We all get different things from things like sports, so it's a very individual thing.
 
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Yes, let's hear it for the single-hander! So beautiful to see, so satisfying to hit. Thank goodness Feds kept the faith through all the dark years (big up to Henin, Gasquet, Wawrinka too), and now there's lots of youngsters doing it again. Man - that Shapovalov! 👍

I started out with a two handed backhand, but switched to single handed when I realized I could get better reach with one hand - this is partly due to the arthritis I have in my neck, not allowing much head rotation. It's also why I play the game with a rather open stance.

There are a good number of single handed backhand players out there now. Even on the ladies side, there are some really good single handed backhands - Jil Teichmann from Switzerland, and Viktorija Golubic, also from Switzerland are two that come to mind pretty quickly. Both hit it with significant power - I guess Roger's influence extends to the women's game there. Golubic used that backhand to great effect last night pushing Bianca Adreescu to 3 sets at the US Open. I think Teichmann has a great future - if you get a chance to watch her play, she is pretty amazing.

And yes Denis can really crack that backhand. I recall seeing a thing on YouTube of the fastest recorded winners over the season - maybe 2019 or 2020 - can't recall which. There was only 1 backhand winner over 100 mph in that list, and that was one of Shapo's jumping backhands.
 
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Here's the video - around 8 minutes in Shapo unloads a backhand at 162 km/hr...


They run the video from slowest to fastest, and his is the last backhand shown.

One of my favourite players, Vasek Posposil also cracks a 177 km/hr forehand near the end. 😲
 
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I too am a huge tennis fan. I’ve been playing 30+ years. I usually play 2/3 times per week and at the weekend play for our club team.

While the recent lockdowns have of course prevented play, the club has just begun to get back into the swing of things.

I’ve been back playing properly about a month or so when about 3 weeks ago I was running towards the baseline while turning to play a forehand, the next I know I’m laid on the court.

A trip to my local ED and an MRI confirmed I’d completely ruptured my quadricep tendon. 🙁

Quick trip to the emergency OR and I’m all fixed. I think it’s fair to say this season could be a write off!!!
Roll on the next 3 months of rehab👍
 
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Ouch - sorry to hear that! Thankfully all the times I've been laid out on the court were just because of my inability to move and keep my balance, or I tripped over my own feet. 🤦 Every time I get up bloodied and bruised, my wife just shakes her head...but I'm a "sacrifice the body" kinda guy when I play, and don't give up on a ball easily! My ambition doesn't always match my ability in that regard though.

Another reason I like clay - when you get up bleeding the clay helps plug the wounds. 👍

Hope the recovery and rehab goes well!
 
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Ouch - sorry to hear that! Thankfully all the times I've been laid out on the court were just because of my inability to move and keep my balance, or I tripped over my own feet. 🤦 Every time I get up bloodied and bruised, my wife just shakes her head...but I'm a "sacrifice the body" kinda guy when I play, and don't give up on a ball easily! My ambition doesn't always match my ability in that regard though.

Another reason I like clay - when you get up bleeding the clay helps plug the wounds. 👍

Hope the recovery and rehab goes well!

Thanks for the kind words Archer. These things happen and no doubt it could have been worse.
I’m pretty competitive and will always try to run a ball down.

Sadly on this occasion the combination of new trainers and an ‘all weather’ court got the better of me, if only I’d been on clay I may well have gotten away with it.

I’m just on the look out for an electric bike to help with building the muscle back up. I’m not one to sit still for longer than needed!😀
 
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Shapo unloads a backhand at 162 km/hr...
Vasek Pospisil also cracks a 177 km/hr forehand near the end. 😲
I sometimes wonder what the GS win records of the Big Three would have looked like if only DelPo had not had his career so spoiled by injuries. He would certainly have made the big hitters reel!
 
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What do you know, a thread that has brought me out of lurk mode. I was bought a dozen group tennis lessons by my wife about 5 years ago and have playing on and off since; I'm now a member of a club near me (a bit west of London) and try and get there around once a week, mainly playing doubles with friends. Would love to be more often but I have a demanding job and spend a lot of my downtime with tweezers in hand (thanks for all you do for us non-professionals @Archer ). I dream of my wife taking the sport up, that would be great. And now my son is 10 I'll be taking him down there a bit more often. By the way - I can't even get my head around how people hit two handed backhand. I have tried as a coach at the club suggested it and it just doesn't work for me. I'm currently sat watching a replay of Zhang v Raducanu (go Emma!!) as I missed it earlier. It seems I'm not alone in preferring women's tennis to men's - just because it's (usually - certain exceptions) just a much more enjoyable and relatable game to watch.
 
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I was bought a dozen group tennis lessons by my wife about 5 years ago and have playing on and off since
So often life-changing! I often hear this kind of Sliding Doors story - but careful now: as my body started to call time on my tennis a while back, my son bought me a course of pottery lessons. Now, my house is groaning with ceramic stuff, and I've learned to see the sheer, um, delight in family and friends' eyes when they receive another gift piece from me. ("Gee thanks, we'll... put it with the other ones.")
Back to the tennis - it's always a pleasure to see a real-deal new player, and that young Emma does look super. Btw, I think Sam Smith has to be one of the best commentators out there today, always so informed and pleasant to listen to.
 
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It seems I'm not alone in preferring women's tennis to men's - just because it's (usually - certain exceptions) just a much more enjoyable and relatable game to watch.

I enjoy watching men's and women's tennis equally at the moment. It wasn't always that way - styles change over time and at different times I've found both men's and women's play equally boring to watch. Fortunately when I find the men's game to be more boring, the women's game has offered more variation, then it flows to the opposite way. Right now they are both giving a lot of great tennis to watch, but still too much in the way of baseline rallies for my liking. I really like seeing change of pace shots, so drop shots, higher arcing shots, slices, etc. Not just endless forehands back and forth.

I recall seeing a side by side photo comparison during Wimbledon of the wear on the courts in the second week of play. Not sure exactly when the earlier shot was from, but when compared to the current state you could clearly see all the wear on the courts was at the baseline, where in the past you could see a ton of wear up at the service box. Not near the amount of serve and volley as there used to be, which I believe is in part because of how well platers return the serve these days. I'm not pining for the "good old days" but I do enjoy it when someone comes into the net regularly, rather than just hit balls back and forth on the baseline until someone misses.

I make a habit myself of looking at the clay court when I'm playing to check to see how much I've come in, and where the majority of the footprints are. This reminds me to come in more!
 
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I recall seeing a side by side photo comparison during Wimbledon of the wear on the courts in the second week of play. Not sure exactly when the earlier shot was from, but when compared to the current state you could clearly see all the wear on the courts was at the baseline, where in the past you could see a ton of wear up at the service box. Not near the amount of serve and volley as there used to be, which I believe is in part because of how well platers return the serve these days. I'm not pining for the "good old days" but I do enjoy it when someone comes into the net regularly, rather than just hit balls back and forth on the baseline until someone misses.

I make a habit myself of looking at the clay court when I'm playing to check to see how much I've come in, and where the majority of the footprints are. This reminds me to come in more!
If you're not crashing the net you are not playing tennis 😁 When I played as a kid, we were ruthless. So it's just natural to me when I am on the court (which has not been for quite a few years). But 10-15 years ago when a friend wanted to play regularly, and when I first met my wife and we would play once a week, I had to resign myself to standing on the baseline and just hitting back over the net -- and in a manner that allowed them to hit it back. No aiming for the corners, no chops that barely cleared the net and would die in the service boxes, etc. They both just wanted to hit. It was very painful for me 🫨
 
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If you're not crashing the net you are not playing tennis 😁 When I played as a kid, we were ruthless. So it's just natural to me when I am on the court (which has not been for quite a few years). But 10-15 years ago when a friend wanted to play regularly, and when I first met my wife and we would play once a week, I had to resign myself to standing on the baseline and just hitting back over the net -- and in a manner that allowed them to hit it back. No aiming for the corners, no chops that barely cleared the net and would die in the service boxes, etc. They both just wanted to hit. It was very painful for me 🫨

I hear you. In the group clinics we used to attend before covid, there were often new people coming to play, and they were not always very good. But I do remind myself that I was there once - no one is born being able to hit a tennis ball, so we all had to learn it, and we all sucked at the beginning.

The head coach who ran all these clinics said that even if you were hitting with a person who wasn't nearly at your level, you should be able to get something out of it. Find a particular aspect of your game or swing to work on, or even practice hitting the ball to a specific spot on the court every single time (this also helps the person who is trying to learn). There should never be wasted time on the court if you approach it with the right mindset in his view, and I've taken that to heart personally.
 
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with my then-future-wife, the time on the court once a week at her health club was all about, uh, courtship. 😁

Yeah, easy enough to work on consistency, etc. when playing with someone who just wants to hit back and forth. But not as entertaining as honing one's skills trying to tag the back corners. Funny thing about playing with my friend -- he was a competitive weightlifter in college. A really good one (set state records in his weight class that held up for almost two decades, etc.). He played soccer a lot too, and was pretty competitive. But he wasn't that great at tennis except for baseline volleying back and forth. He didn't know how to hit the corners, how to approach the net, etc., and his serve was quite poor. So to me, those are things to work on/ improve at. But he didn't really like not being great at it, so he would not practice any of that stuff when we hit -- even though I was happy to accommodate it. He basically didn't want to be out in public view screwing up/ learning.
 
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Yes, you love to practice what you are already good at. I think it’s a pretty natural thing.
 
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So, on overgrips, I bought a bunch to see what would hold up best:



The Dunlop Viper-Dry was the first one I've tried, and it was very comfortable, and stayed pretty dry during play last night. It wasn't near as hot and humid as it has been, but so far I like this one, so I'll see how it lasts.
 
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Thoughts on the US Open?

The quality of tennis overall has been fantastic IMO, and as a Canadian I'm very happy to see two others in the semi-finals. Not the two I would have expected either!! Hoping that they both go to the finals, but they both have very tough opponents. I think if Fernandez plays like she has been, she has a good shot at beating Sabalenka. Felix will be in tough playing Medvedev, and that one I'll be prepared for a long match as they are both fit and have good defense. If Felix's serve holds up (it has been quite good this tournament) he has a chance. Very unfortunate that Alacaraz has to retire from their quarterfinal match.

Novak rolls on as expected...we'll see if the pressure of the situation causes any cracks. I think Zverev will give him a good run.

And it's good to see some young yet mentally tough players emerging, who don't seem to be bothered too much by the pressure of the moment.

On the negative side, the feed we get here is from ESPN in the US, and as much as I love hearing the thoughts of Johnny Mac and his brother, or Brad Gilbert, or the other players they have doing the commentary, I simply cannot stand that Chris Fowler guy. He talks almost constantly, even during points, and seems desperate to show his "insights" into the pro tennis world, when the other guys have actual experience, and he just sits in a booth and talks...drives me nuts.