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·What is it you think they do?
We can arm wrestle semantics, I'd rather not, but creating art (musician, actor, Bob Ross) can be entertaining as much as competition and athleticism (Novak, LeBron James).
As an aside: Musicians can also play their instruments and hear musical cues without having to quiet a whole arena.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerI mean, he's not really the most likable guy in the world. He's a more divisive player, like an Agassi or Mscenroe. Less of a Federer or Sampras.
But something changed and he got darker and more hard edged, and I think that rubbed people the wrong way. Whether true or not, the impression that he plays head games with injuries, or suddenly his eyes don't work, or he looks completely drunk on the court, those things make an impression over time that I think is not favorable with people.
I cannot say if he does these things on purpose, but I'm certainly not he only one who has noticed a pattern. Add to that the outbursts at his team, sometimes at the crowd, and many simply don't have time for that. He's certainly not the only one who does this...
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·Sports thrives on yin and yang -- "good guy" and "bad boy" personas. I think Novak fully embraces his persona, much as I think Connors, Kyrgios, McEnroe enbraced theirs.
Much preferred over a tennis robot type (looking at you Rybakina) with almost no emotion or personality.
Which makes me think of Tommy Paul, whose game I really like. If he had a bigger personality, and could draw on that emotion, and residual emotion from the crowd, I think that could take him to the next level. But in the end, we are who we are I guess.
Much preferred over a tennis robot type (looking at you Rybakina) with almost no emotion or personality.
Which makes me think of Tommy Paul, whose game I really like. If he had a bigger personality, and could draw on that emotion, and residual emotion from the crowd, I think that could take him to the next level. But in the end, we are who we are I guess.
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·What do you guys think of the coaching during the US Open this year. Players and coaches interacting, it seems, between every point and changeover?
I must have missed the memo when this went into effect. Is this new?
It seems very strange to me. And I feel like players are leaning heavily on coaches to make all kinds of decisions for them during the match; decisions that should be the player's job to make; decisions they would previously have to make on the fly and adjust and figure out real time. I feel like it strips away a big part of the game, players now overly reliant on their box and looking up to them for answers after every point they lose.
I must have missed the memo when this went into effect. Is this new?
It seems very strange to me. And I feel like players are leaning heavily on coaches to make all kinds of decisions for them during the match; decisions that should be the player's job to make; decisions they would previously have to make on the fly and adjust and figure out real time. I feel like it strips away a big part of the game, players now overly reliant on their box and looking up to them for answers after every point they lose.
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··Hears dead people, not watch rotors.Djokovic loses this afternoon, retires from tennis and gets into pickleball, where he will dominate.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerWhat do you guys think of the coaching during the US Open this year. Players and coaches interacting, it seems, between every point and changeover?
I must have missed the memo when this went into effect. Is this new?
It seems very strange to me. And I feel like players are leaning heavily on coaches to make all kinds of decisions for them during the match; decisions that should be the player's job to make; decisions they would previously have to make on the fly and adjust and figure out real time. I feel like it strips away a big part of the game, players now overly reliant on their box and looking up to them for answers after every point they lose.
Coaching during a game is common in other sports, so to me it's fine. It was happening anyway - the most explosive case being Serena at the US Open in 2018, after she was caught and had a meltdown. But there were coaches and players that basically ignored the rule anyway (won't mention any names but his initials are t-s-i-t-s-i-p-a-s), and unless they were going to enforce it in a major way, the "rule" was just a joke. Players have look up to their coaches for approval, encouragement, to get special packets put into water bottles (Novak), to yell at them (Murray, and many others) for years, so this is just a natural expansion of that.
Does it take away one of the unique aspects in tennis? Yes, some of it. Does it mean that players won't have to problem solve in real time? Yes, not as much unless they already do it by themselves. Do the old timers complain about it? Yes, a lot in the beginning. Will they get over it? Yes, most have already.
It's not a free for all, and you can still get a coaching violation, if for example your coach is yelling at you from the opposite end of the court. You can only communicate with them verbally when you are at the same end as they are. You can't have really long exchanges back and forth - it's more about them giving you quick advice, so it's not supposed to be a full on conversation.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerDjokovic loses this afternoon, retires from tennis and gets into pickleball, where he will dominate.
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·Who has a better chance at winning a major at this point in their career: Jesse Pegula or Novak Djokovic?
I think Pegula, with more parity in the women's game. I think she could get lucky where someone like Sabalenka or Iga fall early, with an "easier" draw and some luck she could pull it off (Sloane Stevens or Radacanu style).
I think Pegula, with more parity in the women's game. I think she could get lucky where someone like Sabalenka or Iga fall early, with an "easier" draw and some luck she could pull it off (Sloane Stevens or Radacanu style).
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·Djokovic loses this afternoon, retires from tennis and gets into pickleball, where he will dominate.
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·Coaching during the match has been allowed for a while now. Trials started in 2017, and since 2023 all the sanctioned events have allowed it, including the majors. At the start of this year, the change was officially made to make it a permanent thing.
Coaching during a game is common in other sports, so to me it's fine. It was happening anyway - the most explosive case being Serena at the US Open in 2018, after she was caught and had a meltdown. But there were coaches and players that basically ignored the rule anyway (won't mention any names but his initials are t-s-i-t-s-i-p-a-s), and unless they were going to enforce it in a major way, the "rule" was just a joke. Players have look up to their coaches for approval, encouragement, to get special packets put into water bottles (Novak), to yell at them (Murray, and many others) for years, so this is just a natural expansion of that.
Does it take away one of the unique aspects in tennis? Yes, some of it. Does it mean that players won't have to problem solve in real time? Yes, not as much unless they already do it by themselves. Do the old timers complain about it? Yes, a lot in the beginning. Will they get over it? Yes, most have already.
It's not a free for all, and you can still get a coaching violation, if for example your coach is yelling at you from the opposite end of the court. You can only communicate with them verbally when you are at the same end as they are. You can't have really long exchanges back and forth - it's more about them giving you quick advice, so it's not supposed to be a full on conversation.
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··Hears dead people, not watch rotors.Pickleball and electric bicycles will be the downlfall of the human race. LOL. Soon we will be atrophied to the point we'll need a drone to get the mail from the top of our driveways.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerThe Commonwealth prevails! Man what an amazing match that was - so many great rallies at the net, amazing volleys, and the best team certainly won.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerWho has a better chance at winning a major at this point in their career: Jesse Pegula or Novak Djokovic?
I think Pegula, with more parity in the women's game. I think she could get lucky where someone like Sabalenka or Iga fall early, with an "easier" draw and some luck she could pull it off (Sloane Stevens or Radacanu style).
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·I was pulling for Pegula last night. She has a very easy game to watch - seems almost effortless at times. Looks like she was numbing the sting of that loss a little bit after...
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