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  1. Nobel Prize Spell Master! Apr 6, 2015

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    Good new and bad news.

    The Bad news is that my watch sales enter the bracket that Paypal/ebay have to declare and therefore I got a 1099. The good news according to my accountant, but not so much my wife and my banker, is that my purchases offset the sales so as a "Hobby" I won't owe anything.

    The lesson? Use eBay and paypal less and Bank transfer more. or paypal gift.

    The other lesson? try to keep the sales to more than the purchases I guess...or at least the same.

    Last lesson? Hobbies are tax sensitive. didn't know that.
     
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  2. CajunTiger Cajuns and Gators can't read newspapers! Apr 6, 2015

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    If you make a profit, its no longer a hobby.
     
  3. Nobel Prize Spell Master! Apr 6, 2015

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    I guess...
     
  4. Frunkinator Keep tickin & tockin, work it all around the clock Apr 6, 2015

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    Who knew! Lol
     
  5. Lukeeesteve Apr 6, 2015

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    Unless you hobby is making money ;)
     
  6. ulackfocus Apr 6, 2015

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    It's simple: all you need to do is show you spent more than you brought in.
     
  7. Nobel Prize Spell Master! Apr 7, 2015

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    Or as my wife puts it.."Stop!"
     
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  8. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Apr 7, 2015

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    "Do you WANT a tax bill?" would be the correct response to that
     
  9. Nobel Prize Spell Master! Apr 7, 2015

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    Aaaaahhhhh...I see, I listen, I leeeaaaarnnnn...and I like very much your wisdom and advice...::stirthepot::
     
  10. Kringkily Omega Collector / Hunter Apr 7, 2015

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    You had over 200 transactions it seems huh?
     
  11. Nobel Prize Spell Master! Apr 7, 2015

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    Nope...over (X amount of dollars). Fewer transactions, bigger boys and Camera equipment. I defaulted into Paypal payments out of comfort even if not using eBay
     
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  12. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Apr 7, 2015

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    Luv it when your accountant tells you to buy more watches like mine did.:D
     
  13. ulackfocus Apr 7, 2015

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    You send your taxes to South Florida? :D
     
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  14. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Apr 7, 2015

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    That is why i buy watches, nothing to buy besides beer, rum and fishing gear where i live Dennis ( as you know fishing gear has been free lately;))
     
  15. Nobel Prize Spell Master! Apr 7, 2015

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    Oh mine didn't, he doesn't get it at all. He sits there with a long worried face looking at me like I'm about to grow antennae or a second head. Then sighs and "moves on"
     
  16. Nobel Prize Spell Master! Apr 7, 2015

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    Oh and I was wearing my speedy so but no matter...I even showed it to him
     
  17. ulackfocus Apr 7, 2015

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    Nice, ain't it? :)
     
  18. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Apr 7, 2015

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    Who? Me? ;)

    Non-residents of the USA can check out here, the rest of this isn't going to apply to you.

    Anyway, here is a nice synopsis of the US hobby loss rules from the IRS:

    http://www.irs.gov/uac/Is-Your-Hobby-a-For-Profit-Endeavor?

    The document may be summed up by this sentence:
    "An activity is presumed for profit if it makes a profit in at least three of the last five tax years, including the current year."

    Assuming one doesn't meet the above standard (most of us will not), the amount spent on watches is only deductible against the proceeds when that particular watch is sold. I would also recommend keeping track of servicing costs, postage in/out, eBay/PayPal fees, etc., by watch. These expenses would be part of the cost basis when the watch is sold. Any gains from sales of hobby-type items are taxed as collectibles at 28%, not as long-term capital gains (20%).

    If you qualify as a for-profit business, you can then deduct some of your ancillary costs like security, insurance riders, and travel exclusively for purchasing activities. You may be able to deduct losses against your overall income in bad years. In the profitable years, your net income from the activity will be taxable at ordinary rates (up to 39.6%, plus phaseouts), plus self-employment tax (that rate will vary based on other sources of income).

    And thus ends the tax lesson for today.
    gatorcpa