Hi guys,
Has some questions on the T next to swiss made on the dial After some info searching I understood that the dial with T or double T should have some kind of lume (Tritium)on it. Can I assume that all the onyx dial should have no T? onyx markers dial should have no lume, am I correct? I saw this watch online with onyx marker and I don't see any lume but the dial printed "T Swiss Made T"... Can I assume something is incorrect here?
http://www.secondtimearoundwatchco.com/watches-for-sale/omega/constellation-chronometer/8347

Regards
KO

 

It happens

 

Sorry Kringkily..what do you mean?

 

There are many examples of non-luminous dials with such markings. That doesn't mean that the dial in the watch that you posted is necessarily correct, as the image is far too poor to judge.

In other words, finding "T" on a non-luminous dial is not terribly uncommon, and does not necessarily suggest a lack of originality. Judge the rest of dial accurately, and that factor will be rendered irrelevant.

 

Thank you Tony
Regards
Ko

 

You are welcome, Ko. One other point relating to the dial on the watch that you have shown. That type of dial was, in a sense, a 'dual-purpose' dial, in that the markers and hands had spaces that could be filled either with luminous material, or, as is the case with the one shown, onyx inserts. That makes it even more understandable that some of the dials would be marked with the "T".

 

There may have been some lume dots at the end of the markers, but have now been gone or cleaned. Whichever the case, it's not correct.

 

Thanks again TONY, but looking at the description of the watch from the link again it said "applied luminous" is that mean there is some sort of Lume on the dial?

Regards
Ko

 

I suspect that what you highlight is a mistake, by which I mean that those markers have the onyx inserts, and could not have been "luminous" unless there were, at one time, dots on the bezel side of them.

 

This is another point that bothering me...can an onyx marker dial has lume?

 

Yes, but I'd say that typically they don't. It's more of a 'Dress' style.

 

Hands on OPs watch are incorrect and dial is suspect.

 

Thanks Normam, look much better with the hands and markers like that

 

Yes, I also believe the dial is suspect. Some hands on 168.010 domed dials were batton, but with a pie pan I would expect dauphine.

Cheers

Desmond

 

Thank you guys, this is another example, jumbo 168001, with Tswiss made T but no lume, do you guys think the dial is original?
Regards
Ko

 

looks original to me. Has lume on the hands as some of these models did, and so the T's are consistent with that

 

Thank you Desmond
But I cannot see any lums om the hands, can you help point them out for me
Regards
KO

 

Will you be able to take pictures of the back of the dial?

 

No, the seller just sent me these pictures

Cheers
Ko

 

Fewf...Thought it was the one you bought a while ago. This would not be a good buy since the condition is not that great, along with Ts but no lume, the minute hash marks are not aligned or evenly spaced with the hour markers at 6, 7 and 9, and also ink smears at the letters t and e in Constellation. Serial could also be a bit early for tritium dial.