" -SWISS MADE- " dial?

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I know vintage dials can be a combination of "swiss", "swiss made" and various "T's", but that one ?


dash swiss made dash? Have such dials actually existed or it is simply a redial?
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This case reference with the BOR is one of the nicest combinations from this era. The chronometer version makes it even more desirable.
 
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I know vintage dials can be a combination of "swiss", "swiss made" and various "T's", but that one ?

dash swiss made dash? Have such dials actually existed or it is simply a redial?
Thanks

To be clear, too: those are (I believe) onyx markers; that seems the most common way the chronometer-grade 166.010s came, from what I've seen (though I'm happy to be corrected).
 
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To be clear, too: those are (I believe) onyx markers; that seems the most common way the chronometer-grade 166.010s came, from what I've seen (though I'm happy to be corrected).
Even most of the non-chronometer had these markers. I had a gold capped version that I wore regularly for almost 10 years. They really are beautiful.
 
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To be clear, too: those are (I believe) onyx markers; that seems the most common way the chronometer-grade 166.010s came, from what I've seen (though I'm happy to be corrected).
Interesting, the watch in OP is Omega 168.024 (564 cal, 31mil serial) is it safe to assume it has onyx markers too?
 
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It means late productions of 024. Black painted hour markers.

Fascinating--thanks for the clarification @hoipolloi. Hadn't realized these were paint--makes better sense with a closer look. Mine says hi.

 
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Expanding on OP's question, do these "dash" versions signify anything in particular, or just aesthetically added? (And bonus question, what's the chance the dial on this 18kt Genève is solid gold/onyx markers? I'm strangely attracted...)

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Expanding on OP's question, do these "dash" versions signify anything in particular, or just aesthetically added? (And bonus question, what's the chance the dial on this 18kt Genève is solid gold/onyx markers? I'm strangely attracted...)

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99% that watch has a 1012 cal. - it's gold coated with a steel back

I have a "T - SWISS MADE - T" model myself, which is bizarre, normally you'd think that they placed the "-" just as a decoration, but if they place it when "T"s are present too, maybe it signifies something

If I had to make a wild guess, I'd say it could maybe signify that the dial isn't Swiss Made while the watch is Swiss Made
 
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The way I always heard it, and I don't remember how/when/from whom, but it was probably here, was that Ts on both sides meant lume on the dial and hands, and - on both sides meant lume on either the hands or the dial but not both. That's one way how I know my 168.017 isn't right, it's got Ts on both sides but nary a scrap of lume anywhere.
 
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The way I always heard it, and I don't remember how/when/from whom, but it was probably here, was that Ts on both sides meant lume on the dial and hands, and - on both sides meant lume on either the hands or the dial but not both. That's one way how I know my 168.017 isn't right, it's got Ts on both sides but nary a scrap of lume anywhere.
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The way I always heard it, and I don't remember how/when/from whom, but it was probably here, was that Ts on both sides meant lume on the dial and hands, and - on both sides meant lume on either the hands or the dial but not both. That's one way how I know my 168.017 isn't right, it's got Ts on both sides but nary a scrap of lume anywhere.
 
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The way I always heard it, and I don't remember how/when/from whom, but it was probably here, was that Ts on both sides meant lume on the dial and hands, and - on both sides meant lume on either the hands or the dial but not both. That's one way how I know my 168.017 isn't right, it's got Ts on both sides but nary a scrap of lume anywhere.

Having one or two Ts is most likely a stylistic choice and the above is, IMO, a persistent urban myth. I can't think of any watch manufacturer that offered anything else than either fully lumed or completely unlumed watches - Omega certainly didn't. There may be a few exceptions, but apart from a single 50s Constellation reference which may be a case of special ordered specification, I can't think of any.
 
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Having one or two Ts is most likely a stylistic choice

I don’t like to spread misinformation so I did some sleuthing. On page 4 of Desmond’s essay about fake Constellation dials and cases, he states in an annotated graphic (and I paraphrase here) that no lume on the dial and hands negates the double T printing.
 
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I don’t like to spread misinformation so I did some sleuthing. On page 4 of Desmond’s essay about fake Constellation dials and cases, he states in an annotated graphic (and I paraphrase here) that no lume on the dial and hands negates the double T printing.
Troels isnt suggesting otherwise, just that omega would choose one or two Ts on a whim, it doesn’t signify anything particular. As you suggest, a watch with no lume at all should never have a T mark. But the reverse isn’t always true, a tritium lumed Omega might not have any T marks. They do like to keep collectors confused!
 
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Troels isnt suggesting otherwise, just that omega would choose one or two Ts on a whim, it doesn’t signify anything particular. As you suggest, a watch with no lume at all should never have a T mark. But the reverse isn’t always true, a tritium lumed Omega might not have any T marks. They do like to keep collectors confused!

@padders caught what I meant; one or two Ts doesn't matter.

Btw, in all the threads I have read here on OF, I have only ever seen one Omega (apart from a fifties Constellation) that had lume on the hands only and that was an IMO pretty questionable watch.
 
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I too am skeptical of a hands or dial lume only watch.