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direSquirrel
·Good looking dial and case, but asking about $1900USD. No papers or original box.
Suveran in Japan - Overpriced?
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Davidt
·What are your thoughts?
Have you compared to other examples?
Do you have any more pictures?
It’s hard for people to assess a watch from one photo and little information.
Have you compared to other examples?
Do you have any more pictures?
It’s hard for people to assess a watch from one photo and little information.
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direSquirrel
·What are your thoughts?
Have you compared to other examples?
Do you have any more pictures?
It’s hard for people to assess a watch from one photo and little information.
Only other examples I find in eBay are either way under this price and non-running or way over this price with original box and papers.
The lume looks decent, but no idea if it’s a redial or anything. Looking for opinions because I’m no expert. On these. Just like the way they look and don’t want to overpay.
This is the best picture I could get because I was in a bit of a hurry. It’s marked as a 1944 with 30T2 caliber.
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hejsam
·I mean, the condition of the head is good and I haven’t seen this color combo before, but buckle/strap not original, no box or papers.
Only other examples I find in eBay are either way under this price and non-running or way over this price with original box and papers.
The lume looks decent, but no idea if it’s a redial or anything. Looking for opinions because I’m no expert. On these. Just like the way they look and don’t want to overpay.
This is the best picture I could get because I was in a bit of a hurry. It’s marked as a 1944 with 30T2 caliber.
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direSquirrel
·Is there any Suverän on ebay with their original papers? That is very rare for a mid 40s watch so would be cool to see how they look 🙂
Here is one with the OG box. Beautiful example
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerLooks later
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hejsam
·This is what the box for Suverän would have looked like, they are uncommon but out there. Original papers (the certificate) should be very very rare.
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kvikster
·Seems to be a normal price.. None of these will ever come with a box or papers
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amuscare87
·I wouldn’t expect box and papers on a watch from the 40’s. Boxes from that era are around if you look hard enough but the papers? Good luck.
If you definitely want box and papers with your vintage watch your buying pool is going to be very limited
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Dsplash
·Case looks quite sharp, dial and hands are not very attractive…On auction, the watch would make about a third of the asking price max
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direSquirrel
·Case looks quite sharp, dial and hands are not very attractive…On auction, the watch would make about a third of the asking price max
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Dan S
·I was thinking the dial is possibly refurbished or something too. I would expect more patina or uneven wear but this looks very even to me.
If you really like it, you should buy it. The watch is legit, and not everyone wants to wait patiently for a bargain.
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direSquirrel
·I don't think you are looking closely enough at the photo. The dial definitely shows its age, and the radium lume is almost blackened. But I don't think it's totally unappealing.
If you really like it, you should buy it. The watch is legit, and not everyone wants to wait patiently for a bargain.
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Dan S
·I’m not even worried about a bargain so much as I just don’t want to get ripped off. Don’t want to spend almost $2k if the general consensus is it’s only worth $800. I’ll take another look at it in a few days if it’s still there.
The best way to educate yourself about market value is to search for actual sales prices on eBay, forum listings, auctions, etc. and keep track in a document. Also, note condition issues and special features so you can understand valuations for comps. After a while, you'll have a good sense of the market. But obviously that's a lot of work, and you might not enjoy it. For some of us it's fun, and part of what we enjoy about the hobby.
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OllieOnTheRocks
·The correct boxes as shown by @hejsam can be purchased, and regularly come up on ebay for around the £50-100 mark. They do not hold a great deal of value, and they do not really increase the value of the watch, though, they are nice to have for the sake of completeness.
I've never seen an original set of papers for a 1940s Omega, not in real life anyway - I have one for one of my 1950s Omegas, but the real original papers are so rare that, that would indeed add a premium to the price, especially if the correct box is also present.
Case looks quite sharp, dial and hands are not very attractive…On auction, the watch would make about a third of the asking price max
Looking through my records, I had a lovely one in great condition with creamy lume that I sold in 2021 within days of posting, and I got £1500 for it then. This one you show here is not as nice in my opinion, but the price is similar, and that is a retail store not a private seller like me.
Suveran's because they have a 'identifiable' name automatically increases their desirability and value as they're easy to find, if you'd prefer to spend a little less you can get many other 30T2 movement Omegas from that era for 1/2 to 1/3 of that cost in very good condition. I sell them periodically as my collection rotates.
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G___
·If you really like it, you should buy it. The watch is legit, and not everyone wants to wait patiently for a bargain.
We all have a couple watches where we didn't pull the trigger and we later realize "i would have liked to own that" every time we see one.
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clockoclock
·It’s grossly overpriced imo.
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Dsplash
·By the way, a little sun this morning to gake pictures of what this setup looks like in good condition :
And with an amazing patina :
😀
And with an amazing patina :
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