Submerged Speedmaster

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Where would I find the serial number? I don't see one on the outside of the case. I am a little further west than the UK and fear were I to contact the local police where it was found it would wind up on the chief or some member of his family's wrist. I guess I could post an ad in the local paper & ask the person that lost it to form a line on the beach. If I can find the serial number maybe Omega could contact the owner if they registered the watch, which I'm sure is automatic with purchase or the owner was that responsible. They have probably filed an insurance claim at this point anyway, might cause more problems for them if it is returned, but if I can find a serial number I can try.


It’s on the underside of the lug closes to where the word “missions” is on the caseback.

You obviously know the lay of the land where you are better than anyone here... do you think this might have belonged to someone local, or more likely come off the wrist of a tourist who’s long gone?

Are there local laws that might apply?

My concerns are two fold: 1) getting it back to the owner if possible, 2) stopping you from getting in trouble with law enforcement.

Omega might be able to track down the owner (if the watch is registered to them - there’s no gaurantee of this).

I don’t think you owe the owner anything more than doing what’s legally right where you are - certainly not advocating that having found something they lost, that you should spend hundreds of dollars on getting it fixed, to give back to them.

TL : DR - do what the law says where you are in regard to getting it back to the owner, and don’t get yourself in trouble by not doing what you should.
 
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And I feel the same way about anonymous first-time posters on an internet forum.
I try to give people a little more benefit of doubt. My first-ever post here (and only post for some time afterwards, I believe) and the sole reason I signed up here at the time was to create the thread I started in 2013 to sell a 911 Flightmaster to a member whose WTB post had come up in my Google search for a prospective buyer; and people could have made the same assumption about me.
 
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It’s on the underside of the lug closes to where the word “missions” is on the caseback.

You obviously know the lay of the land where you are better than anyone here... do you think this might have belonged to someone local, or more likely come off the wrist of a tourist who’s long gone?

Are there local laws that might apply?

My concerns are two fold: 1) getting it back to the owner if possible, 2) stopping you from getting in trouble with law enforcement.

Omega might be able to track down the owner (if the watch is registered to them - there’s no gaurantee of this).

I don’t think you owe the owner anything more than doing what’s legally right where you are - certainly not advocating that having found something they lost, that you should spend hundreds of dollars on getting it fixed, to give back to them.

TL : DR - do what the law says where you are in regard to getting it back to the owner, and don’t get yourself in trouble by not doing what you should.

Found at a beach house rental area that literally has thousands of vacationers at any one time in season and has a small full time population. I would trust Omega to get it back to the rightful owner before I would the local police, tourists come from all over to vacation there. I'll look for the serial # and try again with Omega. Any Idea when these were made since I don't see them in the current offerings?
 
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Found at a beach house rental area that literally has thousands of vacationers at any one time in season and has a small full time population. I would trust Omega to get it back to the rightful owner before I would the local police, tourists come from all over to vacation there. I'll look for the serial # and try again with Omega. Any Idea when these were made since I don't see them in the current offerings?

With that case back, 2002 until 2006 (although military sales continued untill the skywalker was made available as I understand it).
 
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The moral of the story here is never put cheap and nasty leather straps on decent watches, especially to then wear them the sea! The poor owner has learnt the hard way here.
 
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I seem to recall a post on OF about the battery life of the X33 being rather short. Since it is still working, that sort of narrows down the time period when the owner (or last wearer) lost it at sea. Perhaps it had a battery swap at an Omega AD or boutique in the last 18 months or so.
 
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It may have been on that beach for a year.
The original owner may have sold it years ago. How would Omega know who the real owner is?

If it were found underwater, some places would consider it a rightful salvage.
 
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I seem to recall a post on OF about the battery life of the X33 being rather short. Since it is still working, that sort of narrows down the time period when the owner (or last wearer) lost it at sea. Perhaps it had a battery swap at an Omega AD or boutique in the last 18 months or so.

Good call - you've normally got about 2 years between battery replacements, and as long as Omega did the work they will have a record.

How would Omega know who the real owner is?

If it's had recent service work, as @Longbow points out they might.

If it were found underwater, some places would consider it a rightful salvage.

Or not. Hence the suggestions to do whatever the local law states.
 
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I'll take the charitable view. You don't have to jump through hoops. Simply hand it into the police explaining the circumstances and wait. At the end of the process, if it has been returned to the owner, so be it. If you eventually get the watch handed to you, you're ahead of the game.

I really don't see this as overly complicated.
 
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I'll take the charitable view. You don't have to jump through hoops. Simply hand it into the police explaining the circumstances and wait. At the end of the process, if it has been returned to the owner, so be it. If you eventually get the watch handed to you, you're ahead of the game.

I really don't see this as overly complicated.

As I understand it, the OP feels the police will just keep it and wear it for themselves... so is reluctant to do that.

Hence suggestions of other ways to get it back to the owner.
 
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As it was found 'in the surf' then the law in the UK is that it must be reported to the Receiver of Wreck, a position within the Maritime & Coastguard Agency (MCGA).

Is that high tide surf or low tide surf?😁 The difference is about 100 yards on our beaches???

I work, part time, on a UK National Trust beach on the South Coast of England, From time to time, we find Keys, sun glasses, phones jewellery and watches. We also have an official form for items, found on our beaches, that are handed in.

1) We take the details of the person who found the item.
2) The item, along with the date and location, is then recorded.
3) The item is photographed and then stored securely.

We often find that National Trust members, or other beach visitors, will contact our office to see if anything has been handed in.

Does your beach have a similar administration department?

Having said that, The Army left this machine gun post here in 1945 and nobody's been back to claim it???😕

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Put an ad in the local paper saying not to bother contacting you unless the responder can furnish the serial number. To claim ownership, one has to be able to identify the watch and that's the only way to definitively identify a watch reliably (other than proof of a contemporaneous forum post or public notice or something like that about losing an Omega X-33 in that area). If you took it to the Police, that's the proof they'd require, and I agree with you that it's not safe to assume whoever's in charge won't just keep it, himself. After nobody identifies it in the statutory period in your area, send it to Omega for a service estimate and compare that cost with the going rate for that watch on eBay. Then, either sell it or do whatever you planned to do with it, originally. Whatever you do, don't publish the serial # if you find it. If Omega keeps it because the serial # is in their database, then, you've done your good deed, assuming Omega can be trusted to contact the owner. If Omega service fees are too expensive in relation to the resale value, just find a local watchmaker to repair it for roughly half the cost or sell it as-is on eBay with full disclosure about the condition but not the circumstances of your acquiring it to avoid false claims of ownership. Welcome to the forum.

whats a local paper?

But seriously... It sounds like the OP lives in a tourist area with dodgy local police. Therefore I think we can discount the "getting in trouble with law enforcement" for keeping it angle AND turning it over to the police in an attempt to reunite it with the real owner.

So that leaves us with the moral quandary of what to do with it. I would get the serial number and google to see if anyone posted it online. Then I would do this periodically, once a year or so, for a while just in case it gets posted. Maybe years later, the owner stumbles into a watch nerd forum and is told to post the serial number in an attempt to track it down. Who knows?

Beyond that, I am not sure what else can possibly be done. He already contacted Omega. Perhaps they have some info, but likely not.

In the mean time, I would fix it and wear it. Seems a shame to toss it in a drawer. Maybe kismet brought the watch to you for some unknown reason.
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As my long departed Auntie would say: "Damned if you do, damned if you don't."

have fun
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Wow another great OF bunny hole to go down and avoid work! Basically Salvage and Finders Keepers laws seem to vary from place to place. Failing clarity on this matter, I'd say Karma and the Golden Rule Prevail....Do your best to find the owner first.....What you don't want to do is take this to a repair shop and find yourself explaining to the constabulary where you got the watch. So those UK laws make a lot of sense.
 
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whats a local paper?

But seriously... It sounds like the OP lives in a tourist area with dodgy local police. Therefore I think we can discount the "getting in trouble with law enforcement" for keeping it angle AND turning it over to the police in an attempt to reunite it with the real owner.

So that leaves us with the moral quandary of what to do with it. I would get the serial number and google to see if anyone posted it online. Then I would do this periodically, once a year or so, for a while just in case it gets posted. Maybe years later, the owner stumbles into a watch nerd forum and is told to post the serial number in an attempt to track it down. Who knows?

Beyond that, I am not sure what else can possibly be done. He already contacted Omega. Perhaps they have some info, but likely not.

In the mean time, I would fix it and wear it. Seems a shame to toss it in a drawer. Maybe kismet brought the watch to you for some unknown reason.


Only one clarification, I was a tourist as well, but know the area, hence my distrust of the local constabulary.
 
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Could you not take to a local police station and ask for a receipt as proof of handing it in?
 
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OP, I doubt any harm was meant by the forum community here - I think there's sort of a collective disappointment that someone could find something of potentially great sentimental value (but relatively low monetary value) and not want to seek out its owner. Isn't that part of the fun of being into watches? Making sure ours, and someone else's memories are preserved through these objects? I think the fun of tracking down this Speedmaster's owner (hell, returning it to the owner un-serviced would be a pretty sweet gesture) far outweighs whatever karmic rewards you might reap down the road ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hell, just the other day, a geocacher found a Rolex, lost for 20 years and managed to track down its owner. Neat story.