Submariner 126610LN Accuracy?

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I have the new (Nov 2020) model 126610LN Sub.

it seems to be losing around 9 seconds a day. I might not wear it again for a few days so this adds up and I have to reset the time before I put it on.

I had a no-date Sub a few years ago, and it was the best timekeeper (+2 seconds/day) of all my watches. Considering this is the new improved movement, I wasn’t expecting worse performance.

I’m thinking I might pop into an AD and ask them to take it in for a checkup, as it’s under warranty. Especially when you consider the cost of these watches ☹️

Or should I just relax and suck it up? First world problems and all that...

Has anyone else had a similar experience with this model?
 
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I don't currently have a Sub and wished I did. I'm so relaxed about watch accuracy that I am pleased with a watch that exhibits accuracy on that level.
 
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I don't currently have a Sub and wished I did. I'm so relaxed about watch accuracy that I am pleased with a watch that exhibits accuracy on that level.

I know what you mean, and I was hesitant to raise the point for the reasons you outlined. Part of me thinks ‘meh... let it go, it’s not a big deal’, but then I think of the cost and the stated Superlative Chronometer certification. Should I expect, and demand, more? It’s only a few months old after all.

I just wondered what other people’s experiences were?
 
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I also never measure my watches time keeping. If I notice it is because it's off by minutes, not seconds. That said if you did notice you will continue to. 9 seconds is quite a bit so they should be Abel to regulate it for you. Wether it needs a service they will be able to tell.
 
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I also never measure my watches time keeping. If I notice it is because it's off by minutes, not seconds. That said if you did notice you will continue to. 9 seconds is quite a bit so they should be Abel to regulate it for you. Wether it needs a service they will be able to tell.
Thanks. Yes, I thought 9 seconds was a lot too.
 
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I have the new (Nov 2020) model 126610LN Sub.

it seems to be losing around 9 seconds a day. I might not wear it again for a few days so this adds up and I have to reset the time before I put it on.

I had a no-date Sub a few years ago, and it was the best timekeeper (+2 seconds/day) of all my watches. Considering this is the new improved movement, I wasn’t expecting worse performance.

I’m thinking I might pop into an AD and ask them to take it in for a checkup, as it’s under warranty. Especially when you consider the cost of these watches ☹️

Or should I just relax and suck it up? First world problems and all that...

Has anyone else had a similar experience with this model?

You should get this in under warranty - there is a known issue with the 3235's that can cause premature wear on the seconds wheel, and leads to the type of timekeeping issues you are seeing.
 
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Isn't Rolex setting an internal goal of +2/-2 accuracy for their current production? -9 sec/day is excessive, have it checked out.
 
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You should get this in under warranty - there is a known issue with the 3235's that can cause premature wear on the seconds wheel, and leads to the type of timekeeping issues you are seeing.

For a brand like Rolex, and so soon after purchase, that’s quite shocking.

Thanks for the information. I have a good relationship with my AD so I’ll pop in when they reopen in a few weeks and get it looked at.

Do you know if there is a fix? Or will it always be a weakness with that movement design?
 
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Isn't Rolex setting an internal goal of +2/-2 accuracy for their current production? -9 sec/day is excessive, have it checked out.
Thanks. Yes, this is what prompted me to post on here.
 
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For a brand like Rolex, and so soon after purchase, that’s quite shocking.

Thanks for the information. I have a good relationship with my AD so I’ll pop in when they reopen in a few weeks and get it looked at.

Do you know if there is a fix? Or will it always be a weakness with that movement design?

Not as shocking as you might think, but that is another conversation...

Regarding a "fix" my understanding at this stage is that they replace the worn seconds wheel, and provide extra lubrication in the area. If this is truly a permanent fix or not, is unclear.
 
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For a brand like Rolex, and so soon after purchase, that’s quite shocking.

Thanks for the information. I have a good relationship with my AD so I’ll pop in when they reopen in a few weeks and get it looked at.

Do you know if there is a fix? Or will it always be a weakness with that movement design?
It happens to pretty much any brand from time to time. I didn't know there was a known issue with this movement though. Has to be pretty severe to wear out the seconds wheel in a couple of months.

@Archer, do you know if this issue is happening with the 3230's as well?
 
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It happens to pretty much any brand from time to time. I didn't know there was a known issue with this movement though. Has to be pretty severe to wear out the seconds wheel in a couple of months.

@Archer, do you know if this issue is happening with the 3230's as well?

I believe so...
 
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Interesting, hadn’t heard much about these yet but the specs looked very impressive on paper compared to the 3135 family. This was the movement they increased service intervals to 10 years on too so you’d imagine they had a lot of confidence in their lubrication and wear characteristics but I guess this one slipped through the cracks.
 
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On the face of it your 2020 Sub should be running more accurately than my 25 year old Sub 14060, but it´s not: mine runs consistently just under + 2 secs per day, and that's with the old 3000 caliber! I don't like any watch to lose time, and I think you can expect better accuracy with your still very new Sub! As you say it´s still under guarantee, and any Rolex AD will be able to regulate it. Cheers!
 
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Thanks for your feedback, everyone. I’ll pop into my AD, once they reopen, and have it checked out.
 
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At that price point I would expect it to hold within specs especially for a new watch. It’s giving me pause on these new movements. I might just stick with Omega.
 
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At that price point I would expect it to hold within specs especially for a new watch. It’s giving me pause on these new movements. I might just stick with Omega.

Famous last words...it's not like we have not seen flaws in Omega...or any other brand really.
 
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Famous last words...it's not like we have not seen flaws in Omega...or any other brand really.
True. Although I would think most would agree Rolex is viewed at a higher standard.