Sub 16610 vs SMP 2531.80

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Just thought I would share something that have been thinking about:

I have always been into vintage, and the most recently made mechanical watch I own is my 1970 C-shape Constellation. I am generally a careful wearer, and since I work in an air-conditioned office, wearing vintage to work has never been a problem.

There have been a couple of times, though, when it would have been nice to wear something a bit more durable but still a proper mechanical watch. For example, on a trip with the kids, when I would not need to worry about getting it wet at the pool or taking a bit of rough handling. At the moment the Apple Watch is fine, but I miss wearing a mechanical watch and I do not like having to charge it every night.

I considered using my 1966 Girard Perregaux Deep Diver for this purpose. However, it is still a 60-year-old watch, and even if it passes a 3-bar dry pressure test, I would be reluctant to bring it to theme parks or similar situations. This made me realise that having a neo-vintage watch with more modern features would be useful. By that I mean verified water resistance, lume (which discounts the tritium models), sapphire crystal, and hacking. I also prefer the look of an aluminium bezel over ceramic.

One option I had in mind was the 2531.80. I have never seen one in person, but on paper it seems ideal. On the other hand, I once tried on a friend’s 16610, and the dimensions and aesthetics just felt good. It is possible that the Seamaster would feel that way too if I had the chance to try it.

Overall, I think I lean toward the look of the Submariner. At the same time, I have never really pictured myself owning a Rolex, because the brand has a certain image these days that I cannot say I am entirely comfortable with. The watch itself looks fantastic, but it is also far more expensive, often three or four times the cost of the SMP.

I like the slightly more modern appearance of the Seamaster, and I do not mind the Bond connection. The helium escape valve does not bother me, and I like that it is a little thinner. I have always liked Omega, and the SMP would fit naturally within my collection. I also feel more comfortable wearing an Omega than a Submariner in certain cities and settings.

I'm somewhat torn, but I think maybe I should try the SMP in person and see if that makes a difference. Happy to hear your thoughts!
 
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I think you answered your question in the second to last paragraf, it sums up the Seamaster perfectly. The blue Seamaster is a good looking GADA watch. I got the black, sword hands 2254 with the tapering "Speedy" bracelet and it seldom leaves my wrist. I use it in the shower, at work, swimming, on holiday , at scary places I should not go and in every kind of situation I normalt would be hesitant to use any other watch, without a thought. It looks good, it is comfortable and the bezel is nice to have, even if it is a bit hard to grip. It has a great sturdy movement that is easily serviced by any competent watch maker.
I have never owned a sub, so I cant speak on how it is to wear, other than it certainly is a good watch, but not as good looking as the Seamaster and the image is not for me. Good luck on your choise.
 
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Both the 2531 and 2254 Seamasters are excellent imo. They’re nice and thin and the overall proportions are perfect.
However, I feel the exact same way about the 40mm Sub. It wears slightly smaller than the Seamaster but similar overall.

I go back and forth. I have a SM300 or two for a while then end up selling and getting a 14060 or 16610, then sell those and go back to the seamaster again. I keep thinking I’ll settle on one and keep it forever but that never seems to happen!

I don’t worry about what other people think. No one is wearing my watches but me and it’s what I think that matters.

Pics below. I have a 7.5-7.75” wrist and the pictures make the watches looks slightly larger than they actually in real life.

TLDR: Both are truly great, if you buy well you can likely sell either for pretty much what you paid, so doesn’t matter too much if you change your mind. It really just depends which you prefer.

 
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Also, they all look great with a few scratches and scars so are perfect for daily wear!
 
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Well, personally I prefer the 2254 over the 2531, which looks to me like the lume has fallen out of the hands! I would also choose the 14060 over the 16610, it has cleaner lines and I really don't equate dive watches with needing to know what the date is. Each to their own and good luck with your decision.
 
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Considering that you could buy about 3-4 of the SMPs at the current market prices compared to that of the sub, I’d start with the SMP!
 
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I have had a few SM300s, including the GMT, and always sold them. They look ok at first, but the dial, hands, and bezel got old pretty fast. Same with a 16610 because I really didn't like the sapphire crystal with magnifier. I'd suggest a 14060.
 
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Thanks all for your reply!

I think you answered your question in the second to last paragraf, it sums up the Seamaster perfectly. The blue Seamaster is a good looking GADA watch.
That is a good point. Yes, I would have to think twice before wearing a Rolex, which makes it less suitable as a worry-free GADA watch. I had already mentioned a few scenarios in which I would be uncomfortable in choosing the Sub.

Pics below. I have a 7.5-7.75” wrist and the pictures make the watches looks slightly larger than they actually in real life.
Thanks for the wrist shot. My wrist is even smaller than yours, but I still found the Sub to look fine on me.

Well, personally I prefer the 2254 over the 2531, which looks to me like the lume has fallen out of the hands!
Thank you for sharing. I personally don't like the chunky indices on the 2254 but obviously that's a matter of taste.

Considering that you could buy about 3-4 of the SMPs at the current market prices compared to that of the sub, I’d start with the SMP!
That's a good point, though I find selling to be a hassle but yes that is reassuring to know they are both popular with collectors.

I have had a few SM300s, including the GMT, and always sold them. They look ok at first, but the dial, hands, and bezel got old pretty fast. Same with a 16610 because I really didn't like the sapphire crystal with magnifier. I'd suggest a 14060.
Got old pretty fast as in you got bored of them, or they physically deteriorate? I can't say I love the magnifier look either but I appreciate its functional use. I would miss not having a date window.
 
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Also, they all look great with a few scratches and scars so are perfect for daily wear!
And yes, I am planning to get one that is already scuffed up a bit (but functionally good of course) to save some cash!

I will still wear my vintage on a workday but here in Sydney it can get up to 40C so it'll have to handle sweat and humidity. I guess a diver can go down 300m so it should be okay with fresh seals.
 
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Just to make it more difficult


39.5mm Planet Ocean, 3rd generation used is priced between your two choices.
 
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39.5mm Planet Ocean, 3rd generation used is priced between your two choices.
No no no, don't give me more choices please!! 😂
 
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39.5mm Planet Ocean, 3rd generation used is priced between your two choices.
Damn you. Now I'll have to get me one of these! 🤣
Seriously, that's a beauty and it should also fit my slender 6in wrists.
 
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Damn you. Now I'll have to get me one of these! 🤣
Seriously, that's a beauty and it should also fit my slender 6in wrists.
lol I must say though even though the brand new ones are 42mm they seem to look quite good for smaller wrists too.
 
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39.5mm Planet Ocean, 3rd generation used is priced between your two choices.
What’s your wrist size if I may ask?
 
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What’s your wrist size if I may ask?

Sure. Glad to help, if I can.

7.25 inch at that area. I'm skinny but also 6'4", so it measures larger than it looks.

The PO feels smaller than my speedy but actually looks similar in width to my eye.

Here're a couple other watches for comparison:

39.5 PO


Speedy


37mm 168.023


43mm Seadweller (brother's) vs PO


Seiko 6139


Oris


Bulova Astronaut


Glycine Airman


X-33