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Struggling to set day of week and moonphase - HELP!?

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Hey, how are you?

I just took delivery of a beautiful ladies Omega 18k Triple Date Moonphase.

The watch has three pushers:

Top right pusher: adjusts month
Bottom right pusher: adjusts date pointer
Bottom left: meant to adjust moonphase but it can't get it to budge, I can see it rock but not tick over. I did get it to do it but then couldn't again. Does the time need to be in a certain place. (I'm aware of note setting these things between 9-3).
My first question is how do I set the day of the week. None of the pushers change it and manually moving the time past midnight just moves the date pointer and not the date of week.

My second question is, are there any tips on adjusting the moonphase as the pusher doesn't seem to tick it over.

Thanks in advance, Tom

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cristos71
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Hmm, I don't own this reference but do have a few old triple date moonphase watches so I can maybe help a little.

It sounds to me like the watch needs at least servicing, maybe more. If you can't get the moonphase to tick over with the adjuster, nor the day to change over by the normal scrolling through the hours then I'd say there are definitely some issues that need addressing.

I wouldn't fiddle any more as I believe these mechanisms can be fragile. If you have just bought the watch I'd go back to the seller for a potential return as I would think on top of servicing if parts are needed it could get quite expensive.
 
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The only way to adjust the day of the week is to move the hands forward, this is standard procedure on these older movements. If the day doesn't change at midnight and if you can't move the moon dial via pusher the movement needs service. It's probably not been serviced in many years.
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Thanks for your replies.

Ok, so moving the hands should move both the day of week and the date pointer. And then pressing the pusher should move just the date pointer?

I'm not having much look with these older watches 馃檨 Was meant to be a 30th gift for my partner next week.

Cheers, Tom
 
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You could probably return the watch since it's not working properly. However, when buying a complicated older watch like this, I think that you should probably just assume that a service will be needed, especially if you are buying it as a gift. The last thing you want would be for it to stop working after a few days.
 
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You could probably return the watch since it's not working properly. However, when buying a complicated older watch like this, I think that you should probably just assume that a service will be needed, especially if you are buying it as a gift. The last thing you want would be for it to stop working after a few days.
Thanks, I did expect to get it serviced. But the well-known seller stated it was checked by their inhouse experts and said it was fully working.
 
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Thanks, I did expect to get it serviced. But the well-known seller stated it was checked by their inhouse experts and said it was fully working.

Then you can definitely return it. Who was the seller? Was it Crown and Caliber or something like that? If so, they just do the bare minimum and hope that the buyer won't return it. But they will accept returns if you insist.
 
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Thanks, I did expect to get it serviced. But the well-known seller stated it was checked by their inhouse experts and said it was fully working.
Unfortunately these assurances have little basis in fact, they all say a watch is in great working order. Their 'experts' usually have little expertise in determining functionality of a complicated watch.

These are nice watches and depending on the cost paid is worth getting fixed.
 
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Thanks, I did expect to get it serviced. But the well-known seller stated it was checked by their inhouse experts and said it was fully working.

I think we've all heard that a thousand times before and with experience and over time we learn to take that kind of 'assurance' from a pro-seller with a pinch of salt, and mostly the disdain it deserves.

When I buy a triple date moonphase I always ask of course about functionality, but no matter what I'm told these complicated watches always get a service asap upon arrival just to be safe whether they are functioning well or not.

I'd return it straight away as 'not as described'
 
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T tom519
Thanks, I did expect to get it serviced. But the well-known seller stated it was checked by their inhouse experts and said it was fully working.

This is exactly the scenario I warned you about in your other thread...

If you do return it, I would use caution buying another vintage watch and hoping it will be good when it arrives. As I said before, unless you have proof of a full service from a reputable watchmaker, you need to assume that it's going to need service on arrival.
 
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This is exactly the scenario I warned you about in your other thread...

If you do return it, I would use caution buying another vintage watch and hoping it will be good when it arrives. As I said before, unless you have proof of a full service from a reputable watchmaker, you need to assume that it's going to need service on arrival.
I didn't assume it didn't need a service but when a trusted seller states the watch has perfect functionality I expect the watch to work and be suitable to gift and service at a later date.
 
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I didn't assume it didn't need a service but when a trusted seller states the watch has perfect functionality I expect the watch to work and be suitable to gift and service at a later date.

Right. So return it. Done and done. Next time you have a better understanding of what "trusted seller" truly means, i.e. they sell crap but take returns.
 
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Right. So return it. Done and done. Next time you have a better understanding of what "trusted seller" truly means, i.e. they sell crap but take returns.

I think you mean they sell crap but hope that you lack the technical savvy to realise this. And/or feel overcome by instant sentimentality for this ancient geegaw that you've been lucky enough to find. And then hope that the guy in the watch battery franchise has the skill to turn straw into gold. I'm warming to this now: I apologise.
 
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If their technical experts have checked all worked well, you may ask them to provide instructions. For you to verify this is the cases, BEFORE bringing it to the watchmaker. If you don鈥檛, they may imply later that your watchmaker damaged it.
 
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If their technical experts have checked all worked well, you may ask them to provide instructions. For you to verify this is the cases, BEFORE bringing it to the watchmaker. If you don鈥檛, they may imply later that your watchmaker damaged it.
Thanks. I have been emailing them all day. They said to move the hands manually until I see the moonphase move and then try to adjust it with pusher. Regards the day of week not moving, I'm still awaiting their reply. Thanks for the advice.
 
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Hey all, hope everyone is keeping well.

Quick update and a couple more questions.

I've found that letting the watch run itself to the next day without manually winding, the day of week begins to work and continues to work perfectly.

If I went to set the day of week by manually moving the hands and then go to set the date pointer with the gold pusher, and then tried to set the day of week once again it would stop working and it would no longer move when manually moving the hands to the next day.

So it seems there is an order these complications should be set. If you do it out of order you have to let the watch naturally 'reset' itself by letting the clock run over to the next day.

Is this normal or 1. Have I just gone mad. 2. Watch still isn't right.

It really doesn't appear something is broke as when I've set the complications like this

1. Month
2. Day of week
3. Date pointer
4. Time

it works perfectly.

I haven't tried the moonphase again as it seemed right already.

Cheers, Tom
 
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It's still not right - as you have been told it needs to be serviced.
 
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It's not working correctly. Sometimes when things are not quite right, you might get the date to advance intermittently, or depending on how you apply pressure to the crown, etc. If you're satisfied with that, that's your choice. But it's not the way the watch is supposed to work.
 
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