Gentlemen -
Many thanks for your assistance. And it is certainly not a quick and easy wind hahaha Since it did not seem to hit an "end" I presumed that the automatic function would provide a clutch of some sort to protect the spring.
I'll get some pix up in a few days. The Constellation is a 561 and the Speedmasters are are both early '70's 861s.
again, I really appreciate the info
Charlie
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