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Stainless Steel Constellation Caliber 564, Reference 168.017

Messerchmitt309
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Hello all,

Posting the link to this vintage piece here. https://www.ebay.com/itm/233883873489?ul_noapp=true
I was interested in learning whether the Caliber 564 looked a bit weird? I was reading Desmond's blog (pdf link below) about the 5xx series where the screws and other wheels might be serviced and thus discolor, smudge or look blackish? I really had to nag the seller for pictures of the movement, which raised a flag or two...

http://users.tpg.com.au/mondodec/movement3.pdf

Everyone's thoughts are appreciated as always!
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wagudc
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Based in the color and the circle marking the rotor has been replaced, and it looks like triangular shaped bridge (plate?) has been replaced as well. As you can tell I am not an expert, but I am pretty confident on this. I don't know if that is a significant red flag, other more knowledgeable folks can let you know.
 
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Looks ok to me. Different light condition in this pics. Bright colour at the right side of the rotor as well.....kind regards. Achim
 
Messerchmitt309
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wagudc wagudc
Based in the color and the circle marking the rotor has been replaced, and it looks like triangular shaped bridge (plate?) has been replaced as well. As you can tell I am not an expert, but I am pretty confident on this. I don't know if that is a significant red flag, other more knowledgeable folks can let you know.

Thank you! Certainly not opposed to replacement parts as I want this to be a functional vintage piece in my rotation. Definitely makes sense that a workhorse caliber would be serviced and end up looking like this.

Generally speaking, does serving records change the value of a vintage piece even if all the parts are Omega?
 
Messerchmitt309
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Looks ok to me. Different light condition in this pics. Bright colour at the right side of the rotor as well.....kind regards. Achim

Thank you for your help!
 
wagudc
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It is interesting to note the part that has the serial number seems to be re
Messerchmitt309 Messerchmitt309
Thank you! Certainly not opposed to replacement parts as I want this to be a functional vintage piece in my rotation. Definitely makes sense that a workhorse caliber would be serviced and end up looking like this.

Generally speaking, does serving records change the value of a vintage piece even if all the parts are Omega?

I don't think it is problem that movement parts have been replaced. You can see evidence of rotor rub on the inside of the caseback (see yellow highlighted image.) The rotor was replaced to resolve this issue. It is a common repair, and it is reassuring that the watch was well cared for. I don't see any problems here, and I don't think there is any negative impact on the value. The condition of the movement is consistent with the rest of the watch, i.e. a watch that has been used but not abused.

The vast majority of Omega watches on ebay are either grossly overpriced and/or in terrible condition. This watch is neither of those. The condition is good, but not so good you are afraid to wear it, and I think the price is fair.

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Gui13250
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Different color parts is not a big issue to me in general, but isn’t it weird that the main different color parts is the one with the serial number? Would like to get watchmaker feedback on that!
 
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Different color parts is not a big issue to me in general, but isn’t it weird that the main different color parts is the one with the serial number? Would like to get watchmaker feedback on that!

The angles can tend to give a different look but seems ok
 
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Looks ok to me. Different light condition in this pics. Bright colour at the right side of the rotor as well.....kind regards. Achim

Agreed, this is more “lighting” than “colour”...
 
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