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Speedy Straight Writing '69 - Alternative Numbered Version or Fake?

  1. kox Nov 5, 2015

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    Just saw this 145.022-69 caseback (red circled) - a "rare" Apollo XI straight writing version?
    The funny thing is that it has an very early cal. 861 serial 2655xx, which should make it a 145.022-68. But is has the normal short index stepped dial with print logo (EDIT: sand in eyes: APL and long index)...and a 220 bezel! And caseback is marked 145.022-69

    But that caseback is steel AND numbered, just like the gold BA 145.022-69. Some of the font is also different. Did a mesh-up below of the different straight writing caseback types.

    Fake (first I've seen) or a correct case-back version never seen before (by me anyway) ???

    ::book::

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    Edited Nov 6, 2015
  2. bencrouch25 Nov 5, 2015

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    Very interesting, I'm looking forward to seeing what the experts have to say about this. ::popcorn::
     
  3. Rockmastermike Nov 5, 2015

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    Love learning new things here almost daily.
    Thanks for the multiple shots for novices like me
     
  4. lwong Nov 5, 2015

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    Fonts look entirely incorrect. I think you called it right.
     
  5. wsfarrell Nov 5, 2015

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    Fonts are incorrect, but the quality of the engraving---the thing most fakers get wrong---is extremely nice.
     
  6. speedy4ever Moonwatch Only Author Nov 6, 2015

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    There are 2 fonts (we missed it in the book) for the Apollo XI 1969 STEEL caseback, but none with pointed A and none is numbered. I would be curious to see the inside.
    Stating that it's a fake becomes very usual here and without proof I would not state it, because there are probably still many things to discover. But here let's say it is very unlikely...
     
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  7. kox Nov 6, 2015

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    Well, didn't concluded that it is fake either.... but there's just to many things wrong with it, in my humble opinion. So let's stick to your very diplomatic "... it is very unlikely" ;-)
    Here's the listning - lot in a New York Auctionata auction
     
  8. kox Nov 16, 2015

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  9. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Nov 16, 2015

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    I think in this case he's more asking whether it is or not due to it being different from what's shown in your book, and particularly the numbering like the Gold models, just the choice of thread title made it sound like less of a question but I'll change that to reflect it being a query rather than a statement.
     
  10. kox Nov 17, 2015

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    Thanks Ash. Well, communcation can be tricky ;-)
    Either way, it's just a very interesting piece and I think we can agree that the caseback is very unsual and perhaps not seen before ... or has it? That was the question I was looking for some possible answers to.

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