Speedy 145.022 case back help!

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Nick Wooller

·Jul 9, 2022

Hi!
I wonder if you guys could give me some advice/history of my new (old) Speedmaster?

it’s a 145.022 71ST. It’s dated from 1973 (my birth year)
There are a few things I wanted to ask and despite searching online I can’t find definitive answers.

1. Where should the serial number be? I need this for insurance purposes. I’ve looked in the caseback but can’t see anything other than the model number.
(Pic 1)
2. I can’t see any omega symbol on the Hexalite glass. Is this signalling an aftermarket replacement or is this something that some models had?
3. Inside the case back there is HF (merged together) engraved and then HF 7468 engraved. What does this signify?
4. Do the hands etc on the face look authentic for this vintage? I think the bezel is wrong but with my limited knowledge I think the hands and step dial are correct?

many thanks in advance for your sage advice!

Nick

 

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140dave

·Jul 9, 2022

Serial number is on the movement itself, not inside the caseback.

Hands and dial look appropriate.

Bezel: wrong but an earlier model, looks like a “Dot Over Ninety” (DON). Pictures are not good enough to say it is genuine but if so while not the right bezel it is a more desirable one. If real you can easily sell it for more than it will cost to replace with the proper period correct bezel.

Mark in the crystal can be very hard to see but if not there most likely a generic replacement.

Hope this helps.

 

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pmontoyap

·Jul 9, 2022

There are two different watches pictured, one has a 321 case with shorter pusher profile, DON 90 bezel. The other one has a DN 90 with taller pushers correct for 71. Considering this discrepancy it will be really difficult to help you sort out your doubts.

 

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Nick Wooller

·Jul 9, 2022

pmontoyap

There are two different watches pictured, one has a 321 case with shorter pusher profile, DON 90 bezel. The other one has a DN 90 with taller pushers correct for 71. Considering this discrepancy it will be really difficult to help you sort out your doubts.

Thanks so much for your reply. I had no idea the images differed. They were from the marketing on Chrono24.
Below is a pic I’ve just taken….

 

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140dave

·Jul 9, 2022

I can only really see the one in focus, the black background ones are too fuzzy on my phone, that’s what my comments are based on.

pmontoyap can see more than I can obviously 😉 and I am betting they are correct about multiple watches pictured.

edit: posted while you were posting the above. New pics are better and looks appropriate IMO.

 

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Dan S

·Jul 9, 2022

WTF is going on with the photos? That last one has a bezel that I don't recognize at first glance.

 

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Nick Wooller

·Jul 9, 2022

Dan S

WTF is going on with the photos? That last one has a bezel that I don't recognize at first glance.

Apologies Dan. I’m not sure why it’s duplicated the wrist shot if that’s what you mean?

 

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Dan S

·Jul 9, 2022

I'm concerned about your bezel. It appears to have a dot next to 90 and also an accent over the E.

 

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pmontoyap

·Jul 9, 2022

The serial number is on the movement. HF refers to the case manufacturer Huguenin Freres. The crystal without logo is a replacement. Hands and dial are correct but the hands have been touched up. Hope this helps

 

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Nick Wooller

·Jul 9, 2022

Thanks so much! I really appreciate your help!

Nick

 

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studeb

·Jul 9, 2022

Dan S

I'm concerned about your bezel. It appears to have a dot next to 90 and also an accent over the E.

i think the accent is a mark on the bezel.
If not, WTF is it?

 

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Dan S

·Jul 9, 2022

studeb

i think the accent is a mark on the bezel.

I hope so.

 

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Nick Wooller

·Jul 9, 2022

Dan S

I hope so.

Dan,
I think you are correct. My eyes aren’t what they used to be but the accent does in fact seem to be a very well positioned dink in the bezel….