Speedmaster racing 40mm collectable?

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I'm wondering if the Speedmaster racing 40mm will become a collectable piece (I guess I'm asking about value retention)? I know value retention is a taboo subject to some but I'm likely to flip this watch in the future (maybe after five years or so). I can purchase a new one for $5000 AUD. What say you?
 
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Yet another post equating collectible to making a profit (or breaking even) when selling in the future. This is really frustrating.

Yes, the Speedmaster Racing can be collectible, as I’m sure there will be people who will want it in their collection.

Will you be able to sell it for a profit to said future collector (or get the same price for it)? No.

If you like the Speedmaster Racing and want to buy it to enjoy for the next five years or so, then by all means buy it and enjoy the watch.

If you want to make sure you can get back the $5000 AUD in the future, keep it in the bank.
 
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Buy what you like.
Then when you sell it has made a profit be happy. If it has made a loss then you have several years of enjoyment. For investments go to the bank of stock market.
 
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Hi All
I'm wondering if the Speedmaster racing 40mm will become a collectable piece (I guess I'm asking about value retention)? I know value retention is a taboo subject to some but I'm likely to flip this watch in the future (maybe after five years or so). I can purchase a new one for $5000 AUD. What say you?
Looking at the first answers you have received, I think you can indeed tell that this type of questions is not really welcome around here.

Having said that, since I am already typing, I will nevertheless share my thoughts with you:
- based on purely technical and horological considerations, it is quite unlikely that this piece will appreciate in the future. It is not truly a rare piece but was also never a piece that people were listing after.

- on the other hand: who knows!? For all I know, it may just take for an A-celebrity to sport one of these on social media…. And mayhem would ensue.

I will only conclude once more on the 101 advice we like to put forward on OF: buy what you like and what you will enjoy! If you are not willing to accept the risk that the watch may be worth nothing in a few years, then move on to something else.
 
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Don't listen to all the people here, I know 110% certain this watch will triple in value, I give you my word. Come back to me in 50 years time if it hasn't.
 
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You never know….
But these existed in the lineup for longer then they should have and sold in decent numbers in the Asian market for awhile.

They are interesting as they are 7750 based co axials.

most people think the preceding dates looked a bit better.
 
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I'm wondering if the Speedmaster racing 40mm will become a collectable piece (I guess I'm asking about value retention)? I know value retention is a taboo subject to some but I'm likely to flip this watch in the future (maybe after five years or so). I can purchase a new one for $5000 AUD. What say you?
I wouldn't buy that watch, use it for 5 years, and hope to make money on it. Even breaking even sounds pretty far shot.
 
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Don't listen to all the people here, I know 110% certain this watch will triple in value, I give you my word. Come back to me in 50 years time if it hasn't.

Hahaha

Are you John Mayer?
 
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Hahaha

Are you John Mayer?
Yes I am but don't tell anybody, I want to keep posting here incognito.
 
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The watch isn't sold in the current catalog, so that means no more are being produced. The automatic co axial movement adds refinement as does the guilloche on the sub dials. The issue for any watch that is going to increase in value has a lot to do with how many were produced, and how unique this watch was compared to whatever else was in the catalog. This watch did come with a red dial with black sub dials. I can find a few of those for sale, so the red dial seems to be rarer, but they don't seem to command a higher price than the white/black or black/white dials. When collectors look for a Speedmaster that may increase in value, it is more likely to be based on the "moonwatch" and more likely to have been limited number production runs. Also more likely to be collectible are lower volume and hard to obtain boutique only watches such as the current Silver Snoopy Award watch. This Silver Snoopy watch is $9600 MSRP but on C24 today the watch has an asking price three times above this amount.
 
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Yes I am but don't tell anybody, I want to keep posting here incognito.

I've been wondering which members were celebrities.

The watch isn't sold in the current catalog, so that means no more are being produced. The automatic co axial movement adds refinement as does the guilloche on the sub dials. The issue for any watch that is going to increase in value has a lot to do with how many were produced, and how unique this watch was compared to whatever else was in the catalog.

You forgot an important factor, whether the watch is actually desirable.
 
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@Rado63

One issue is the model that proceeded it is considered better looking, with the same base movement, just not co axial. Produced in lower numbers and still not going up in price. Hence why I doubt that generation of racing will go up.

 
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OP, I don't call selling in five years "flipping" - language best avoided, for your sake! But, I would need a genie to guarantee my profit before I could like that one. It has Speedy DNA, but with the desirability genes stripped out. Personal taste of course, so buy and enjoy, like they said.
 
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(I guess I'm asking about value retention)?

Value retention - extremely low probability

having said that :

He who predicts the future lies, even if he tells the truth.
 
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I've been wondering which members were celebrities.



You forgot an important factor, whether the watch is actually desirable.[/QUOTE


From my observation, a watch does not have to be desirable when introduced. Overtime they become valuable. Often an undesirable watch later becomes that sought after reference Many watches, probably the most famous is the Patek Nautilus, not a big seller when it was introduced. Now look at the values.

This an Omega forum, so look at almost all the limited edition moon watches. Most lingered below retail and then suddenly the collectors learn of a piece, production of the watch stops, and the price increases. Recently I watched diver 300m Tokyo 2020 white dial ,blue hands , blue bezel another example of a watch that seemed to sit now go find one at MSRP , all gone from the retailers, over retail pricing on C24.

Many limited edition rare and unique pieces from any manufacturer were not easy to sell, maybe were not desirable at retail, but later the value escalated. Vintage watches have a different scope of valuation, but I will go back to what I mentioned earlier and that is that if the piece is rare against the other items in the catalog, unique in some form, limited in number produced, or something difficult to obtain it may increase in value but there has to be a fan base for that brand and the watch.

From the perspective of the OP, the watch is easy to obtain, not limited in number produced, not very unique against the the same examples of the reference, and never difficult to obtain. It's actually a very nice watch with a technical movement and some hints of haute horology in the dial design, but I feel today most collectors focus on moonwatch editions. This racing edition may become a sub set that we see future collectors go for, and in the case of this reference it may come down to the dial you choose as the future collectible.
 
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Disagree. Few LE’s languished unsold and then became popular. A few people made very concerted efforts on the Tin Tin…

but all the Snoopies where desired from the start. ST1’s big from day one while ST2’s sit…


Italian Albino and Mitsuoka are pre internet but made a splash as soon as they got exposure. But the similar German BA’s are unloved with little future of massive appreciation. The AS has been high for ever…

I don’t see the scenario your referencing.
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