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Speedmaster Professional Bracelets 1171/1479/1498

  1. dan7800

    dan7800 Nov 3, 2018

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    Hi all,

    There are a few threads on speedy bracelets, but none that I could tell that systematically reviewed each of the modern bracelets.

    I have an 87 speedy pro with a 1450/808. I love it. The issue is that I don't feel comfortable as using it as my daily wearer due to its value, so I am looking for a daily beater.

    I've spent some time reading about the difference bracelets here: http://www.omega-addict.com/reviews/bracelets/

    My criteria are:
    - Generally period correct for my 87 speedie (doesn't need to be perfect though)
    - Relative ease of adding/removing
    - Value: I already have a 1450 and don't want to spend a ton on a bracelet
    - I have a smallish wrist and generally prefer smaller links

    My options are:
    1171: Seems to have the vintage look - something that I like
    1447: Seems to be period correct, but I cannot seem to find any information on it
    1479: This seems to be the other option. Other than the clasp, what are the other differences between the 1171?
    1498: A bit too modern looking for me, and outside of the period correct age

    What are everyone's thoughts/2 cents on a bracelet and endlinks that will be correct and enable easy adding/removing?

    There's a great chart from @t_swiss_t[​IMG]

    Thanks all
    -Dan
     
  2. fskywalker

    fskywalker Nov 6, 2018

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    That's a very nice table! I had the 1479/812 and it is a very good choice as still has the vintage vibe as it is all brushed, being less expensive than the 1450/808 you want to save.
     
  3. Vercingetorix

    Vercingetorix Nov 6, 2018

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  4. JVK_watches

    JVK_watches Nov 6, 2018

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    The 1479/812 is completely made up with solid links (also end links). The 1171 has hollow (folded) centre links (solid outer links?) and the 633 end links are hollow. The 1479 has some more weight to it which feels very durable. I own the 1479 and have ordered the 1171. But I'm afraid it's not period accurate, but the 1479's sell for around $500 now and then. They seem to be getting more rare (for fair prices) because not that many are online.
     
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  5. Walviskroket

    Walviskroket Nov 6, 2018

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    What is the value of a 1970's 1171 bracelet?
     
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  6. gdupree

    gdupree Nov 6, 2018

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    Usually around $500-700 range depending on condition and patience.
     
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  7. JVK_watches

    JVK_watches Nov 6, 2018

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    You can still order the 1171 and 633 at the Omega Boutiques and it's the exact same model. Around the same price at the used offers. Guess not that many know about this. Should be a perfect fit for your watch. The modern ones are bit more difficult, to get a perfect fit.
     
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  8. dennisthemenace

    dennisthemenace Hey, he asked for it! Nov 6, 2018

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    Not quite correct .I'm not surprised that not many know about this.
    The modern 1171 available from Omega has at least three major differences to the original 70's bracelet.
     
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  9. JVK_watches

    JVK_watches Nov 6, 2018

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    And those are.....
    Must admit I made an assumption because it doesn’t fit the modern moonwatch (or variations) very well without filing the end links. And Omega didn’t use the 1171 on any model after it got replaced by the 1450, 1479 etc.
    So why change the design...are they manufacturing related differences?
    Anyway, “modern” 1171 still available via Omega.
     
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  10. Taddyangle

    Taddyangle Convicted Invicta Wearer Nov 6, 2018

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    The early 1171 have screws for the links (vs pins), the logo on the clasp is on a trapazoid (vs square), the text on the clasp is engraved (vs etched) and the clasp is larger on the modern.

    I have the modern and 1st gen.

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  11. Walviskroket

    Walviskroket Nov 6, 2018

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    upload_2018-11-6_15-49-28.jpeg So this is the vintage one :)I do not have a square. What does this mean?
     
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  12. dan7800

    dan7800 Nov 6, 2018

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    Dumb question, but are these listed on the Omega website? I've done some searching, but cannot find any information
     
  13. JVK_watches

    JVK_watches Nov 7, 2018

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    Not a dumb question, these are basicly replacement parts and therefore not available at webshops. You can order it via your AD or OB. Reference attached
     
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  14. milhouse

    milhouse Nov 7, 2018

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    also end links 633 are different, engraved vs etched
     
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  15. dan7800

    dan7800 Nov 7, 2018

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    Thanks. Is there a set price that you are aware of, or should I call an AD/OB?

    Also, is there any difference in the ease of installation of a 1171/1 and a 1479?
     
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  16. JVK_watches

    JVK_watches Nov 7, 2018

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    Not quite sure, I got it for retail thanks to buying some other stuff at that AD. So should be somewhere near 500 to 600 euro.

    With the 1479 812 end links you have to file the side flaps to make it fit the modern Speedmaster cases. They’re too thick and the springbar holes with not align properly. Someone suggested using curved spring bars. And some people say you have to file the 633 (1171) end links as well. I’ve seen pictures of an Omega Boutique ruining the lugs because they didn’t know how to fit the end links.
     
  17. dan7800

    dan7800 Nov 7, 2018

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    So if I want an "Easy" fit for my 87 Speedmaster, would any bracelets (other than the 1450) require no filing etc...
     
  18. JVK_watches

    JVK_watches Nov 7, 2018

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    I'm not sure when Omega updated the case dimensions (a bit), but this should tell you if it will fit without filing. But since the 1479 came on Speedmasters in the nineties, I think you're safe with your 87 Speedmaster. And I have a pair of filed 812 end links here that I'm not using, so will sell them for any reasonable offer ;-)
     
  19. MacEd

    MacEd Nov 7, 2018

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    Thank you for sharing. Good to know Bracelets timeline