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  1. SpikiSpikester @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 9, 2016

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    Thanks. It's good to see him back performing again and leading a somewhat normal life.

    It's a terrible shame how he was treated and institutionalised for all those years. There's a very good account of how it all played out from the beginning in the book "Eye Mind", if you haven't read it.
     
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  2. SpikiSpikester @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 9, 2016

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    I'd just add that asking prices are often way over these amounts, so its not always possible to find what you want at the right price unless you have patience. That's nothing unusual in the vintage market though.

    Tom - the only thing I'd question here is the higher prices for restored pieces as against clean original ones. While the more general market may pay a premium for a restored watch, I suspect that many forum members would value the unrestored examples more highly - assuming the condition was right. Maybe that's just me though.

    Also, its not so hard to put a box and some papers together - so any premium there would need to reflect either the simple market value of buying those items separately, or strong indications that the box and papers were definitely original to the watch in question.
     
  3. Tom Dick and Harry Jan 9, 2016

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    Morning bud

    Completely agree and a fair point regarding he price of 'restored' vs nice original, I guess I was basing that fully restored comment on a watch that has been fully official services by STS or omega bienne (God forbid) and is either in stunning original condition (particularly the case) or has been lapped correctly (again by someone like STS)

    Agreed with box and papers, I feel B&P do add a market premium and although easy enough to add to a watch.

    With 1969 MKII they tended to come in the larger chronograph box (which was the same design as the crater box without the crater and in either black and white or red) after about 1972/3 a lot were supplied in the usual 1970's red box
     
  4. SpikiSpikester @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 9, 2016

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    Thanks Tom, good to "see" you again. Good point about the chrono box - and the crater box, which is a different ball park altogether.

    By the way, to add to the OP's question about the ref no's, there is also ref MD145.034 which is the gold plated & gold dial version. Below are my ST145.014 racing and MD145.034 to add to the pics others have posted:

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  5. Tom Dick and Harry Jan 9, 2016

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    Thanks bud

    Yep, it's been a manic time at work and in my private life of late (any other little one en route) but 2016 looks like it is going to bring some very rewarding moved and some opportunities most forum members would kill for

    Love the GP MKII, enormously underrated watches, one day I'm going to get an 18K one, there was a rumour that omega only made a few 18K ones but it's just not true, Maloy simply got smelted.
     
  6. SpikiSpikester @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 9, 2016

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    Congrats on the new arrival :thumbsup:
     
  7. Maganator Jan 9, 2016

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    What crater box came with the MKII?
     
  8. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Jan 9, 2016

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    Here's a restored one. Overhaul by omega, case from photo500... Omega didn't do a great job of restoring the case finishing, so I had to go elsewhere.

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  9. CdnWatchDoc Jan 9, 2016

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    Here is mine, totally unrestored; I have the mooncrater box and papers-it was sold in Haiti in 1972...keeps perfect time in -25 C weather in Canada in 2016!
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  10. Thegreatroberto Jan 10, 2016

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    Not the most economic solution, but I bought a good black dialed version and had the dial and three hands changed to the Orange versions during a service. Obviously kept the original dial and hands. Think racing dial and hands cost £200? But, I now have the watch I wanted, and never intend selling. Just tend to wear it.
    I got irritated at not being able to find a good racing version for resonable money. Maybe I wasn't looking in the right places! View attachment 188883 14524165926921299671856.jpg
     
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  11. tyrantlizardrex Jan 14, 2016

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    Just had a message from the seller of the eBay one:

    "I have had quite a few messages about my speed master so I think the auction is going to go well on Sunday.

    It is a gamble, but I know I will make somewhere between £1000 £ £1100 on this because the questions have been quite basic and seem to come from consumers who will bid to win, rather than bid according to market value.

    So for today only I will end the auction and the watch could be yours for £1020. I will meet you in town and deliver the watch in person.
    "

    I'm reading that as: It will maybe get £1000, and then I'll have to pay £100 in fees, so if you'll give me £120 more than I will get on Sunday, I'd like that please.
     
  12. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 14, 2016

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    You're also taking a risk on the seller if you do that as you've gone outside the eBay framework so they won't be able to help you.
     
  13. tyrantlizardrex Jan 14, 2016

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    Agreed.

    For me, it's over polished, there's no paperwork for the service... if it was £700... but not for £1020.
     
  14. Aussie Jim Jan 14, 2016

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    This has been a great thread. These have recently caught my eye and I think I maybe falling for their attractions. What does the collective you, think about this one. Vendor not very good photos. Havent seen the mechanism. To my eye looks like it is probably all original, with a previously lightly polished case. Tritium dial is likely original. Aging of hands and indices looks pretty good. The ask from a dealer is about US$2000.

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  15. CdnWatchDoc Jan 15, 2016

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    Looks pretty good; the colour of the hands definitely have faded, but uniformly, so very likely all original. I think the price is within range, but yiu may be able to negotiate down a bit as the case is pretty well used. That will be a nice pick up!
     
  16. tyrantlizardrex Jan 19, 2016

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    Sold on eBay for £1050, now in Shoreditch and its gained a £225 premium.

    Waiting for my comment to be deleted...

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  17. tyrantlizardrex Jan 19, 2016

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    By "the proof is in the patina", does he mean, "check out the muck on the dial at 9pm, and the wrist cheese around the pushers, this watch hasn't been cleaned or serviced for time"?
     
  18. robocaspar Jan 19, 2016

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    Wrist cheese, [emoji23] I've never heard that one before
     
  19. tyrantlizardrex Jan 19, 2016

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    Wrist cheese... evident around the pushers (along with signs of water staining), and in the notches where the case back tool goes, and in the bracelet, and around the lugs. Wrist Cheese.

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