Hi to all,

I'm close to pull the trigger on this Mark II, but i would love to know what are the toughts of the experts about it. It has been serviced recently. Thanks in advance.

 

That's a 145.037, pity its been polished so much...

 

You can get that case redone properly . The dial looks nice but the hands look like they have been replaced

 

How do you see it's a 145.037? By the hands?

 

It's not a 145.037----caseback says 145.014. The 037 is very rare. Here's a (bad) picture from the web.

 

Does anyone know the what the third line on the case back signifies and whether there is a 'correct' version of it?

The third line on the case back above starts with "DD" but I've seen other versions incl. on fratello watches where the line says "brevet..."

 

Hi Randy. I've notice that too, but untill now i didn't understand the difference between that and the one on Fratello.

 

I may be completely wrong, but aren't those pusher tubes adapted for the remote pusher actuator extensions I saw photos of years ago?

 

Don't get me wrong, but can you translate (or maybe ilustrate)?

 

Thanks a lot. I've googled ir and have found some info. Does this influence the value of the watch?

 

Maybe if it had the correct case back.

 

There's no chance that this could be a .014 with the pushers prepared for the extensions? There isn't much information about this version of the Mk II

 

It's not implausible that the pushers from the 037 would fit the 014 case. Finding them is another matter altogether.
The only way to find out for sure would be an Extract if you buy it.

 

Ah - so what is the difference?

 

I think it´s this ->

"I don't know what the DDE stands for, but maybe it means that the patent was pending at that time.
There is a patent which appears to fit.
The 2750/67 seems to indicate the Swiss patent application numbet and the year during which it was applied for."

Searching the web we a see a lot of case backs with the DDE.BR description instead the Brevet. I believe those (the DDE.BR) are older than the others.

 

I you're right about the patents - that seems consistent with stuff I've read elsewhere.

Any info on what years the DDE.BR case backs were roughly used?

 

No. I don't have any idea

 

Actually the case is also different in that the 'holes' for the pushers are much larger than the standard mkII. So this is the very rare .037 version but sadly with the wrong back. I agree an extract would be worth it.

 

Uust to add to the wrong caseback theory: that's a delrin brake in there (unless the light is playing serious tricks) meaning the movement dates after 72. Working purely from memory, 32m serial number puts it there too.

Case does look poorly refinished and hands don't appear to be the same age as the dial.

Your money, your call.