Forums Latest Members
  1. Bitman Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    15
    Likes
    6
    I am looking for advice on how to obtain a valuation on
    A Speedmaster Ed White 1965/66 Calibre 321
    Case 105.003.65 that recently had full a Omega service, my watch had been sent back to Omega and now looks like it has been stolen in transit back to Southampton, I have all the relevant details and photos but without the watch how can I get a current valuation?
     
    Etp095 likes this.
  2. WatchWalker Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    360
    Likes
    745
    Would you have any recent picture to upload? Just for others to keep an eye open...
     
  3. skipper Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    166
    Likes
    195
    Sorry to hear that. But if it was stolen whilst on its way back to you from Omega, then surely they are responsible for reimbursing you up to the max value of their carrier insurance? Without the watch though, its not going to be easy to get an actual valuation, though recent pics and of course the Omega service invoice should help.
     
  4. Bitman Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    15
    Likes
    6
    Etp095 likes this.
  5. Bitman Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    15
    Likes
    6
     
  6. Bitman Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    15
    Likes
    6
    Added the photos, I have and yes Omega are responsible but Fed Ex were the courier responsible, Omega’s original offer was just a replacement new watch, which is not acceptable, Omega have said to get an independent valuation, how without my watch?
     
  7. skipper Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    166
    Likes
    195
    I take it those are post service, which may explain the extent of replaced parts... or were the bezel insert, hands, pushers, crown, bracelet all like that pre service? Dial looks original but with washed lume perhaps? Any movement shots? What did FedEx insure the parcel up to?
     
  8. padders Oooo subtitles! Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    8,991
    Likes
    13,941
    Speedmaster101.com has prices based on condition.

    Just be aware that the big numbers you may see for values of Ed Whites rather depend on originality. If you had a slew of parts changed by Bienne or worse changed previously and lost then the value will suffer. Those pictures show a replaced bezel which knocks about £3k off the good price straight away. The hands aren’t original so knock another £500 off and the bracelet isn’t original (replacement 1125/617?) so adds very little, maybe £300 (the cost new). Crown a other £250 off. Original but lume washed dial minus £1-2k maybe. Not trying to be negative but realistic. I would also have thought it was Omega’s problem to sort your compensation but I wouldn’t think that was ever a 5 figure watch. Maybe circa £7-8k if offered on the open market. What are they offering? A FOIS or similar?
     
    Edited Jun 24, 2018
    Iamradj and Davidt like this.
  9. rcs914 Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    2,502
    Likes
    3,593
    Pretty sure they are pre-service, since one of the subdials has the hand detached and rattling around inside the crystal.
     
    Spacefruit and smitty190373 like this.
  10. Bitman Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    15
    Likes
    6
    Thanks for the advice, Yes this is post service but I do have all the original parts, I inherited this watch and not being a watch collector did not realise what it was and that by having it serviced new parts would devalue it.
    Omega have also offered to find a watch the same and restore it but from what you are saying this will devalue it.
     
  11. skipper Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    166
    Likes
    195
    Good spot...!!! Not quite sure how I missed that.
     
  12. skipper Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    166
    Likes
    195
    I'm confused now...
     
  13. Bitman Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    15
    Likes
    6
    The service was done 18 months ago and I had sent it back again under warranty, not happy with it and the winder broke, it cost £1366
     
  14. padders Oooo subtitles! Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    8,991
    Likes
    13,941
    Can you post a pic of the original parts. As you can see from my earlier post there may be significant value there but it all depends on condition.
     
  15. skipper Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    166
    Likes
    195
    Are we talking an independent that does Omega or STS? Or was it done through your local Omega AD with the watch being sent back to Bienne? I'm not sure if AD's send vintage pieces straight to STS or just bundle them off to Bienne like all the others?
     
  16. ewand Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    1,291
    Likes
    5,855
    How do you know it was stolen? Has Fedex admitted that they have lost the parcel?

    I had a Grand Seiko come into the UK in April, and Fedex have managed to lose it between depots; I can put you in touch with the head of UK customer service if you ping me a PM. They spend a couple of months looking for my watch and concluded that it's lost... :(
     
  17. Screwbacks Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    1,682
    Likes
    4,857

    if stolen, is it covered by insurance? if you are claiming for compensation, it depends on your declared value. otherwise, sorry to hear you have just lost an expensive watch.
     
    Edited Jun 24, 2018
  18. Bitman Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    15
    Likes
    6
     
    7C8071A3-8923-4624-B5B5-1711DEA8FAF4.jpeg A2F65D36-B269-4B4D-9AE7-9F246AABC8BB.jpeg 4EB31124-7909-43F0-BBF5-79000E03F679.jpeg
    Iamradj, JimJupiter and Davidt like this.
  19. Bitman Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    15
    Likes
    6
    The bezel does have scratches
     
  20. padders Oooo subtitles! Jun 24, 2018

    Posts
    8,991
    Likes
    13,941
    Ok so you have a decent enough original dot over 90 bezel, assorted original tritium hands (with an extra drop second hand), original flat foot crown etc etc. If Omega are willing to find you a replacement Ed White, as long as the dial is decent and original I would be tempted to accept but insist the dial (and bezel if the donor has a DON90 too) is left alone since you have enough parts to make it very nice. Otherwise take a payout and sell those parts.
     
    Iamradj likes this.