Gents, sorry if the answer to this question has already been posted, I've searched here and WUS etc but can't find a definitive answer. Does the newest Speedmaster bracelet 1958/957 with screws fit the SMPc. I know the older Speedy bracelet does (1610/930), so can't see any reason why the newer one wouldn't?

I want to change to a speedy bracelet on mine, but would prefer the screw style over the older pin and collar. OB has given me a price on both and its only £25 more for the newer one.

Thanks so much guys for any help you can give

 

Anyone?

 

I doubt a Speedmaster bracelet would fit — the case size on the newer Seamasters is too different. I suspect the holes for the pins wouldn’t line up properly. It could be done on the previous generation, but they had a slimmer case more like a Speedmaster.

Are you certain the examples you saw of the old Speedmaster bracelet fitting were on this case and not the older case?

 

Donn,

Which seamaster are you talking about? My watch is the SMPc 2500d, which is the previous generation as per the my pic in the first post.

 

Here's an example of an SMPc on the older Speedy bracelet... There's loads of threads on this it's quite a popular mod...

 

Then I guess it will work and you’ve answered your own question. I’m still surprised it works, since that watch has a thicker case than the Speedmaster.

But the new screw version should be the same.

FWIW, I have the same watch and feel the Bond bracelet looks the nicest on it and is the most comfortable of any bracelet I’ve ever worn. But to each their own.

 

I'm not sure I have answered the question. After some more digging I've realised the 1610/930 bracelet like in the picture above is from a Sword Hand Seamaster (such as the 2254.50), so is probably a Speedy bracelet but with Seamaster specific endlinks.

I think Speedy endlinks from a new or old bracelet would need some modification to fit a seamaster.

I think I'm probably just going to go for the 1610/930 bracelet and not worry about a step back to pin and collar. I'll be putting an adjustable clasp on it anyway.

 

I tried putting my speedy bracelet on my SMPc 2500 when I used to own it. It didn’t fit.

 

That's great info, thanks very much. I suspect the endlinks are incorrect? Did they just not fit with the shape of the lugs?

 

Yea the end links were off. The holes for the end links and the case of the watch do not line up. And the curvature of the end links didn’t match the case

 

Thanks so much for the definitive info. I'll grab one of the 1610/930 bracelets then in that case. Thanks mate

 

I was thinking about doing this with a newer AT bracelet off the idea for my 2500 AT based of my PO mod a couple years back. I would think same idea.

So I took the adjustable clasp and put it on a 2500 PO. I had to buy 2 8500 links and some extra screws.

Here is what I did took 2500 clasp off. Took 2500 tube and put 8500 pin through it to connect 2500 and 8500 links. Screwed screws into pins. Other side just normal screws into 8500 clasp.

Why couldn’t you use the older end links and just attach the newer links / bracelet? As long as the links were the same size should work. If I can source the parts I might give it a shot as I cannot stand the older clasp on the bracelet.

 

Yes can be done, but you need to use 930 end links for it to work

 

I actually think it looks really good.

 

Thanks so much for the info here and over on WuS! And thanks to everyone else who has contributed to this thread and given me the answers I need.

I'm either going to get a new style bracelet (1958/957 or similar) and the 1610/930 endlinks, or go the slightly cheaper route of just putting the whole 1610/930 bracelet on.

I'll post up pics in a few weeks time once I've got and fitted all the bits, and update the thread with which option I took!

Cheers gents

 

I agree with Donn’s sentiment. I think that the Bond bracelet looks great on the SMPc. Definitely one of the best bracelets that Omega has ever produced - far more comfortable and a better fit than the 1171/633 bracelet on my Speedy Pro.

 

I just picked up a SMPc and would like to switch out the bond bracelet for speedmaster style.

Can anyone confirm if the newer Speedmaster 1958/957 bracelet with the screws will fit the 930 (026ST930) end links?

I know the 1610/930 bracelet will fit the SMPc, but I would prefer the newer style with the screws. I can’t find any info if the links are the same width on the 1958 and 1610 bracelets. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Yes it will work, have done it myself. You will slide in a pin (needs to be a bit shorter so some cutting needed) inside the channel of the 930 end link and then screw in on both sides of the screw style speedmaster bracelet to keep it in place. I also modified 887 speedmaster endlinks (which are shorter than the 930's) with a dremel to fit a Seamaster and used them on the screw style speedmaster bracelet.

Below how the STZ004195 (newer screw style speedmaster bracelet, just like 1958/957) looked when installed on my gone black wave Seamaster:





and the rear view of the bracelet when installed:




Please note that on the picture above the end links installed are 887 rather than 930. I modified 887 end links to fit just like the 930's as like more their profile as are shorter

 

Fits fine!

You could always get a 2254 seamster too It looks great on that one!

 

Some food for thought... when I mentioned to my watchmaker who runs an AD that I preferred the screw link bracelets, he advise the pin and collar bracelets worked better.

In his view, the pin and collar setup is harder to initially size, but once sized, you don't really ever change it. The collars really hold the pins in place well with friction that requires significant force to move, and he basically never sees them work loose. Also, every time you get the watched serviced at an AD, they replace them all to mitigate wear.

The screws, he mentioned, can and do work loose, the pins basically don't if maintained at service intervals.

It was an interesting perspective I had not thought of.