I have a early Ed White, 105.003-63 which has the slightly smaller 2998/105.002 size screw in pushers installed. Are the larger size 105.003 pushers available in screw in mounts? I have replacement 105.003 friction mount purshers but have been advised that these don't work. Does the case have to be swapped in order to use the correct size pusher? Perhaps this is the original setup in that a 105.002 case and pusher was left over and used for an early 105.003-63 and just leave it alone? Opinions appreciated.
The 086ST0088 friction fitted pushers from the 105003 won't work in a case frame that has tapped holes - these are the only pushers listed for the 105003. You need the 086ST0023 threaded pushers for the 105002 case. Factory or franken? Who knows? Cheers, Al
I think the 5.0mm, pusher is listed as a replacement for the 105.003 however it is the larger 5mm 145.012 pursher size. It will fit but it's larger than the 4.5mm, friction only, pusher which is correct for the 105.003. All this grief over .5mm too big or too small.
The 086ST0059 is not listed for the 1450012 or the 105003 by Omega. The 1450012 case uses the 086ST0007 screw in pusher. The 086ST0059 is really a 145022 pusher - this is the modern pusher that current watches use. Again this is following what Omega has listed - that's not to say that a pusher that's not meant to be on a case won't work for that case, but it won't necessarily be right.
Thanks. So in that case, which are the correct pushers (by part number) for 105.003 case with screw fit pushers? The 0059 (which appears to be bigger and belong to 145.022), or the 0023 for the 2998? I need to get some, so curious to know which would be better.
Can you elaborate on this statement? Are you saying there are 2 different size pushers correct for the 105.003? Or are you saying the 4.5mm 105.003 pusher was available as friction and screw in?
JACK G said: ↑ 105.003 cases can be push fit or screw fit - both types of cases were produced. gemini4 asked: Can you elaborate on this statement? Are you saying there are 2 different size pushers correct for the 105.003? Or are you saying the 4.5mm 105.003 pusher was available as friction and screw in? ************************************************************************************************************************* Firstly let me state that unlike other more knowledgeable members on this forum I am not a Speedmaster expert. However I did carry out some extensive research before and after buying my 105.003-65 a couple of years ago. Based on this research I am saying that 4.5mm friction and screw in pushers were used during the production run. There were at least 2 case makers (and possibly more) for the 105.003 - Huguenin Frères as seen in the first pic below and another maker as seen in the second pic. The other maker (looks like FJ or RJ) was unknown a couple of years ago but may now have been identified. This topic was discussed here earlier in the year: https://omegaforums.net/threads/speedmaster-case-makers-who-is-rj.20097/ It is this second case type that has the screw in pushers and this is the case that I have. Although I have original and correct sized pushers fitted the later 145.022 screw in pushers do also fit this case. Hope this helps to clarify.
Thanks for the info Jack! Pity nothing more came of @alfanator's post. It is interesting, Aliens notwithstanding. Now, for the FJ cases, is the a part number for the 4.5mm screw in pushers? I can't find such a part anywhere.
Unless things have changed in the last two years I believe the 5mm screw pusher are the only ones currently available for a 105.003. As previously stated I am not an expert so hopefully someone will come along and prove me wrong. I understand that pushers can be rebuilt so it looks like finding an original one (or two) in usable condition or suitable for a rebuild may be your only option - and I fully appreciate the frustration of that search! One last thought .................would any of the current 'spin-off' Speedmasters such as the FOIS which use non standard pushers yield something more suitable? Good luck with your search.
Well...I recently bought two new pushers for my 105.003 - '63 and after a long search, discussions and much more it was obvious I needed the 086ST0088 pusher. That should be the original 4,5mm friction pusher. A 086ST0088 costs a small fortune but hey.....it's an Ed White The pushers will arrive tomorrow so my watchmaker can tell me more after tomorrow. If I have the answers I will post them here in this thread.
Directly from Omega? That's strange because they are very hard to find. It must be 4,5mm x 3,5mm. Well....lesson learned :/ But I couldn't find them ....
They are not rare in that they are not discontinued, so anyone who has access to parts from Omega can get them just by sending an email or ordering through the Extranet. I can't tell you what the dimensions are (I don't have them in stock), but that part number is $31 each from Omega...how much were you charged?
Is it also true that, regarding the two (or more) case designs for 105.003, that originally, one style has no bevel on the lug, whereas the other does?
Hm, never heard about that story. The 105.003 is in my case a straight lug. No bevels or what so ever. Maybe a fanatic polisher went a bit deeper to remove deep scratches or dents. A straight lug really took some heavy punishment during his life, so dents and scratches are no rarities. Mine looks like this at the moment. So new pushers will go in as also the right sec sweep hand