Speedmaster 105.012-66 dial

[Laneside]

The MWO tome says that a B2 close T dial is rare on a Speedmaster 105.012-66.

I read an informative and interesting article on this model posted by another OF member. Guess what! ....... his dial too was a B2 close T.

How rare is rare? ........ and does it really add value?

 

[ibis888]

I don't think it particularly adds value (others may disagree) but it's cool to point out the added on "Ts."

 

[Davidt]

Adds no value imo. Condition is much more important.

 

[Dan S]

It's funny how often people think that any less-common variation must add value. More often, an unusual variant can actually hurt value because buyers are suspicious and just don't want to take a chance on it. There are so many ridiculous websites that list dogmatic information about which dial variation goes with which serial number range for various watch models. God forbid you have a watch that falls even slightly outside those ranges.

 

[Davidt]

Also with a lot of late 60’s Omega dials, particularly in 34mm watches such as the DeVille, there isn’t a common variant (apart some sometimes sunburst silver). Just a fairly large variety of dials all made in relative low numbers so most dial types are uncommon but it doesn’t equate to more valuable.

 

[t_swiss_t]

Dan S

It's funny how often people think that any less-common variation must add value. More often, an unusual variant can actually hurt value because buyers are suspicious and just don't want to take a chance on it. There are so many ridiculous websites that list dogmatic information about which dial variation goes with which serial number range for various watch models. God forbid you have a watch that falls even slightly outside those ranges.

As someone who runs two reference websites ( gmtmaster1675.com and explorer1016.com ) I say on several pages that all the serial range-dial matches are empirical, a best guess based on what I and others have seen, correct watches can definitely fall outside the ranges, etc.

I think there's reasonable scrutiny for something that lies far outside what's known versus something in the penumbra. Given how poor dealers are and "noticing" when a watch is put together, I think these dogmatic sites have done far more good for collectors than evil, but thanks for your nice comment.

 

[Dan S]

t_swiss_t

I think these dogmatic sites have done far more good for collectors than evil, but thanks for your nice comment.

What a strangely defensive reaction to my comment, which did not mention either of your sites specifically.

 

[t_swiss_t]

Dan S

What a strangely defensive reaction to my comment, which did not mention either of your sites specifically.

A reply that was measured to equal your strangely aggressive and negative comment about sites made by many a volunteer/collector who are trying to be helpful. Not sure I know of a single one that says “you dare buy something outside these ranges and you are a fool.”

 

[hansaboy]

t_swiss_t

As someone who runs two reference websites ( gmtmaster1675.com and explorer1016.com ) I say on several pages that all the serial range-dial matches are empirical, a best guess based on what I and others have seen, correct watches can definitely fall outside the ranges, etc.

I think there's reasonable scrutiny for something that lies far outside what's known versus something in the penumbra. Given how poor dealers are and "noticing" when a watch is put together, I think these dogmatic sites have done far more good for collectors than evil, but thanks for your nice comment.

I have always used lots of lovey and interesting websites regarding watches.
The people who started and runs them are very dedicated and extremely talented.
And they do it on their sparetime!

The info, wonderful pictures and stories has helped me during my path in the vintage watchworld,
and I do think that they are invaluable.