Hello O.F.-members and viewers,

I have a Speedmaster 105.012-65 wit a strange Dial and I would like to know if it is a correct Dial or a fake one.
The concentric rings are missing with the seconds sub-dial (I will try to take pictures) and the text "T SWISS MADE T" is loose from the minutes markers which is strange by the "Close T"-version but normal by the "Spaced T version"..


Could you please explain?

Kind regards,
Eric

 

Eric - high resolution pics will help so when you get a chance. Had to dig out my copy of MWO underneath a mountain of boxes

From what I can tell, this seems a B2 close T dial per position of the T on each side of swiss made. However 'swiss made' seems positioned a bit lower than I'd expect. See here -




Again, detailed pics will give a better view, but, seems the G in OMEGA should have a longer horizontal length than in your pic, and I think should look like this to be the B2 type dial typical for 1964-1967 Pro dial -



I've not seen a dial for this reference without the concentric rings (seconds counter)

Sure other will have further/ better comment as there can be other observations and examples seen/known by more experienced (and esteemed) OF members

Run the chrono a few seconds before taking better pics so there be full views of the lettering


Cheers

 

Looks similar to the grey/blue dial type.

 

Hi,

This is about the missing concentric rings....


Rest is coming.....

 

Oeps,

Wrong button:

And the G:


Sorry about the waiting....

 

BUMP....

 

Fascinating issue, there has been a lot of discussion about how these rings seem to vary from virtually non-existent to very visible and pronounced across different dials and references. I can understand why it's made you nervous in conjunction with the T space issues...but (without really being qualified to know) it seems to me more like a case of a Monday morning / understudy dial-job than a redial or outright fake.

 

Thank you guys for the answers .... and it seems that the Dial is original.....

 

Lucky guy, seems to be a rare thing ;-)

 

I don't want to jump the gun here but you have now put the watch for sale in the private sales forum and headlined it as FS Omega Speedmaster 105.012-65 with rare Dial. Now as the OF is a place of safe refuge in the world of watch buying intrigue it may be seen as slightly misleading to people with little Speedie knowledge to say your watch has a rare feature when so far yours is the only one with this feature. It might be an idea to wait a little to verify your rare features with the experts before using them as selling point. Normally a one off is either a prototype, faulty or altered.
I now going to have to get out my speedies and count the rings as never heard that before?

 

Sorry but this is NOT a rare dial.

 

Thank you for the commenttOmegaCal66 and Pianist, but the reason to put this thread on .Vintage Omega Watches Help, Discussion and Advice was this strange Dial. After a little while

. I put this for sale... and more than a little time after this I received your comment ??? It has to be determined how to define rare, very rare and extremely rare.