Hi folks! I have spotted a speedmaster 105.012-65. Serial of the movement is in the 24 million range, cal. 321. Glass is said to be original. Below some pictures. I am sorry for the quality in particular of the case back. Until now I didn't receive better ones but I will ask for better pics. What do you think? I have already checked http://speedmaster101.com/105-012/ but I would highly appreciate your comments. I have concerns about the bezel and the lume on the dial. Is it worth to go for? If so what would be a reasonable price? Thanks a lot in advance!
A very well used watch. It looks like there is a protective plastic on the crystal, which makes the dial look spotty and we can't tell the true condition of the dial.
finally, I got better pics! It only took more than 2 weeks... thanks for your patience! Unfortunately, no pics of the movement. Seller doesn't want to damage the gasket. Well, what do I see? (Trying to sharpen my eyes) Lume is missing on some indexes. Lume of chrono hand is a bit damaged. Lume of hands matches lume of dial except for the chrono hand Bezel is scratched and seems to have a ding at 80. Hands are correct, some white is missing. Case is not polished (?) Caseback is correct (?) Crown and pushers are correct (?) Crown has some rust. Dial is correct. Crystal is original. Did I miss something? What do you think is a correct price for the watch? I am not sure how to judge the condition. Is it still "good"? Thanks in advance!
I think you have covered it well. This is a decent, honest and correct example. The low points are the somewhat beat up bezel and lume plots that are somewhat lacking. I would put this in the fair to good category and you can get an idea of price on the below link. http://speedmaster101.com/
first of all thanks! Yes, I know http://speedmaster101.com/ (made my homework ) However, the price range between fair and good is quite large. That's why I am unsure. I would see the price in the midth of the range. Correct? It is always the same when I buy a watch. So many worries in advance...
I would factor in "not seeing the movement" to the over all price for the risk being taken. For a watch this old, I'd be very concerned.
If you can't see the movement, how are you going to be sure that the movement is OK and within the stated serial number range? If I were to sell my 105.012-65 I would be happy to show off the beautiful 321 ticking away inside! Has it been serviced? A top quality service centre such as STS in the UK will take movement photographs as part of the service.
Service history is unknown. Anyway, I always consider a service by my watchmaker. I think my risk tolerance is somewhere in the middle. I have already purchased some watches without being sure of the movement. Until now (knock on wood) I was lucky.
I think if you were to tell people the asking price you will be much more likely to get responses as to the fairness of the price. Otherwise your going to get crickets, as you note values differ across the board, and between collectors
First of all my apologies that I kept silence for the last days. You are right, telling a price would be much easier. However, if it is an auction like in this case, you only have the limit price. Therefore I asked for a reasonable price as I don't want to overpay. And as we know, there is a huge price range for Speedies. However, thanks to everyone who tried to help! Much appreciated!
I think the price is about right. Bezel is poor Case is average (may be better but we can't see) Dial is average, with missing lume Movement is unknown Given the above, unless someone saw it in person and it looked better in the flesh, I can't see how anyone could pay much more and even at that price there's an element of risk.