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Some unusual Universals coming up at Christies

  1. timjohn Mar 15, 2018

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    A lot of telemetre scales, and apparently Christies have found a way to get extracts from the Universal archives.

    Hmmm.
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  2. ELV web Mar 15, 2018

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  3. valjoux72 Mar 15, 2018

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    To be honest, I personally do not like them that much. The inner scales destroy the dials for me, and the Cartier one is a bit tired... Most interesting for me is the first one, but not sure about the subdials...
    Has the last one been restored?
     
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  4. Lucas Mar 15, 2018

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    Cartier went unsold last year at Christies NY and in many a opinion not good.
    The rest seem genuine, with possibly the exception of the stainless steel chronograph with a possibly NOS dial.
     
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  5. chronoboy64 Mar 15, 2018

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    Thanks for sharing ! Not my taste.
    Would prefer to by here :thumbsup:
     
  6. 10H10 Mar 17, 2018

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    I like them all, unfortunately they won't be affordable...:( But the first one with fat lugs seems to be a redial imho.
     
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  7. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Mar 17, 2018

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    None appeal to me.
     
  8. 10H10 Mar 17, 2018

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    Good for the bids ! :thumbsup:
     
  9. Florent Mar 17, 2018

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    This one look really great :rolleyes:
    The price will be great too IMHO !

    Both dial and case are in top condition ... And telemeter scale are really a plus to me
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  10. CPRwatch Mar 17, 2018

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    Great looking watches which obviously suited the era they were aimed at , but far too complicated for me to possibly understand . But saying that, breitling seems to still be doing well out of the navitimer so obviously my opinion is in the minority. Which just proves I know nothing about watches ::facepalm1::
     
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  11. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Mar 17, 2018

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    Those dials are all replacements, A lot of them were available loose for a long time from a supplier in switzerland, and now they are appearing in watches as replacements for the originals. Another example:

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  12. timjohn Mar 17, 2018

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    That would figure. My telemetre dial doesn’t look nearly as sharp as the Christie’s ones Universal Compax Plated.JPG
     
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  13. Florent Mar 17, 2018

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    I see, so basically the watch is Franken. But still love the dial ...
     
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  14. ELV web Mar 17, 2018

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    Is Mr. Wind still with Christies, I am quite interested to know how exactly the extracts were obtained?
     
  15. rolokr Mar 17, 2018

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    Since Universal Geneve gave you some options on dial and hands , to me unless you know the history of the ownership, all UG may be Frankens ?
    Most mint dial UG you see probably were not hardly worn and maybe was in a dry climate and or UG service dials installed at some point, IMHO !
     
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  16. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Mar 17, 2018

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    I would not say that a correct, genuine dial replacement constitutes a "Franken". It is not original, but correct.
     
  17. timjohn Mar 17, 2018

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    I think he’s gone independent
     
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  18. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Mar 17, 2018

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    We don't know that it is correct, if correct means as it might have left the factory - that is, if this dial was ever fitted to this case. But that is unknowable with UG. To quote another member:
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  19. Florent Mar 18, 2018

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    Let's say custom made watch :)
     
  20. Florent Mar 26, 2018

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