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  1. kox Feb 5, 2016

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    Well, we all know about the rising prices of those nice vintage pieces, Speedies etc.
    The SM300's have also been on the rise, but this one kind of shocked me (and I do follow and know the SM300 market somewhat)...

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    7.150 euro for a late 14755. All correct, but without bezel inlay, missing lume on minute hand, dial not very attractive /perhaps relumed hour wells ... but with an extract and a 7912 bracelet with the 6's EL's (bracelet is somewhat late dated, but...).

    This is an all time high for a medium range 14755. Didn't see that coming. Yes, the bracelet and EL put perhaps 1-2.000 euro on top, but not more. So minimum 5.000 euro for a head only, no inlay and late 14755 ??? Wow (..or a bit of shill bidding perhaps - I almost hope that)

    I sold an early 14755, also without inlay, but with better dial and head only, about 3 years ago....for about 3000 euro and that was a fair price at that time....

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    ... All that talk about a bubble, is beginning to make sence :cautious:
     
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  2. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Feb 6, 2016

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    Of all the sm300s the 14755-61, only made for 1 year, is very hard to source.
     
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  3. flame Speedmaster Neil Feb 6, 2016

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    Hi K

    You know that 3yrs is a long time in sm300's values....just look at what has happened to 165.024's !

    Personally , I think this looks a very tidy example and has not been half beaten to death....security of the Extract is a nice thing for confidence too.

    I'm sure better photo's will pop up here in the very near future :)

    Best - Neil
     
  4. cristos71 Feb 6, 2016

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    I was following that one too and agree with your observations. Maybe the 7912 with 6's is more of a 2-2.5k bracelet these days, but that still makes just the head 4.7k. I was expecting it to achieve maybe 5 - 5.5k for the set. So I was almost 50% out with my estimation!

    There are so many vintage Speedmasters on the market at any one time and we have all seen where the pricing has gone there. The vintage and straight lug 300 market is much thinner so I suppose it shouldn't come as much of a surprise that this sharp rise has happened there too. Perhaps it is a long overdue upwards price correction and what today seems a very high and surprising result will probably be tomorrow's normal.
     
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  5. Davidt Feb 6, 2016

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    IMO The lack of a redone bezel gives people more confidence that it hasn't previously been messed with. No 6 endlinks are going bonkers at the minute as well do I think those and the brcelet add slightly more to the package.

    Saying that, it was in my watch list as I've got half an eye out for one, and was surprised at the price when I check in with one day to run.
     
  6. flame Speedmaster Neil Feb 6, 2016

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    Hi

    Obviously I have sold a couple of 2913's this year and they have all gone for well in excess of £5k GBP....the best one by far fetched a premium (undisclosed) sum , however think double the 14755 being discussed here ....the market has definitely moved up a gear or 2.

    IMO , it's collectors that need to adjust....

    Best - Neil
     
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  7. kox Feb 6, 2016

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    Well, not exactly IMO. The 14755 was produced from late 61 and well into 1963 and did have more subreferences. You have your 14755-1 and -2 and the -61 and -62. So yes, the -61 was not produced for more than a year, but that applies to most af the SM300 subreferences:) These 14755's are not harder to get to than your typically 2913 or 165.014 subreference IMO. But sometimes they surface or disappears in time weaves or so it can seem ;)

    Yes, but your 2913's was in another League IMO. The 2913 vs. late 14755 is like the 2915 vs. late 2998, just not with the same value span.
    Anyway, I know the prices are not what they were 3 years ago, but this one still surprised me... and yes, collectors need to adjust ... but these days the adjustment is all over the place, and I'm having trouble keeping up with the pace of things :rolleyes: If I were to sell some of my SM300's today, I would have a really hard time pricing them.
     
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  8. Kringkily Omega Collector / Hunter Feb 6, 2016

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    It's just market. Also there has been a recent huge surge in interest of vintage given all the rereleases as new collectors are finding out about the vintage examples previous unknown to the mass market. Someone new who looked at the 6000 sm300 thinks hey I can get the original one for the same or slightly more why not
     
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  9. CajunTiger Cajuns and Gators can't read newspapers! Feb 6, 2016

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    :)::popcorn::
     
  10. cristos71 Feb 6, 2016

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    Easy solution....think of a number and multiply by 1.5 ;)
     
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  11. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Feb 6, 2016

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    Every now and then Fort @kox opens up the knowledge vault and today I learned that there was a 14755-1, 2 and 62. I've only seen the 14755-61 and 165.014-62. Is the 165.014-62 identical to the 14755-62?

    FYI, regarding prices, I managed to get this 14755-61 listed on EBay in November for €5100. Aldo had it for 2 years servicing it, recreating the bezel and some reluming and the owner sold it when it finally reappeared. I suppose it was a bargain.

    http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=221951944673&globalID=EBAY-USPurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network
     
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  12. kox Feb 6, 2016

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    Some early 165.014-62 are identical. With the 14755 dial and hands (pic 1). Some had the stick hands and 14755 dial (pic 2). And from the 165.014-63 reference you should find the "normal" 165.014 setup with the stick hands and the "165.024" dial (pic 3).

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