Sm300 help

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jantjewgm

·Jul 11, 2022

Hello folks, I have an opportunity to acquire a vintage Seamaster 300. The bezel insert is in terrible condition, bezel does not turn and the hands seem to be relumed? I have never owned or wore one, and my knowledge is limited. What do you guys think? Does it look oke? What price would be fair?
Thanks in advance, I appreciate it!

 

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ALEJANDRO BOVONE

·Jul 11, 2022

considering overall condition, which is pretty beaten up, case showing wear, scratched plexi and bezel insert destroyed I d expect hands not to be as pristine as in this one. hard to tell if relumed or a replacement set. but whiteness on the second hand says it might be a moder service part.

regarding price i am not aware of current market for this one but someone else will certainly chime in.

 

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jantjewgm

·Jul 11, 2022

Thanks. Seller claims hands are original to the watch and no relume.

 

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Franco

·Jul 11, 2022

Also the crown is not age-correct.

 

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ConElPueblo

·Jul 11, 2022

jantjewgm

Thanks. Seller claims hands are original to the watch and no relume.

They have been relumed. Whether or not that matters is up to you. If you like, they can be relumed to perfection, but then they will clash just as much with the mouldy, unattractive hour markers.

 

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ALEJANDRO BOVONE

·Jul 11, 2022

jantjewgm

Thanks. Seller claims hands are original to the watch and no relume.

dial look burnt on several areas. by a heat source in direct contact. hands are not original to the watch as they are extremely pristine. white paint looks like a spare part would look. maybe not brand new spare part, can be old, but i don t think as old as the watch. also hour and minut look bright and shiny. just look at the rest of the watch and a burnt dial, destroyed bezel, incorrect crown, scratched plexi and case. hands just scream not born there. not saying seller lies, he may have been told so and he is transmiting.

 

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Mark020

·Jul 11, 2022·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

It all depends on the price. EUR 2k: sold in a flash. EUR 5k: interesting...

 

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jantjewgm

·Jul 11, 2022

I tend to avoid this one, with all the negatives. The asking price is €4000,- so not that high. But for this condition too much?

 

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Sa Calobra

·Jul 11, 2022

I would personally prefer to pay extra for one of the decent versions that have come up in the private sales section. But then again - I don't have the expertise to take on watch projects like this.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/ome...63-with-original-bezel-6000-head-only.143671/

 

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Mark020

·Jul 11, 2022·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Well not much risk at 4k IMHO

 

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whippetman01

·Jul 11, 2022

Some TLC can result OK

 

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jantjewgm

·Jul 11, 2022

Wow that is indeed a transformation!

 

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jantjewgm

·Jul 11, 2022

@Mark020 would you pull the trigger?

 

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Mark020

·Jul 11, 2022·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

I would like to see naked dial pics

 

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whippetman01

·Jul 12, 2022

I’d gamble £2k as is.
Mine cost me £180 as was back in 2013
STS service
James H sorted hands
Aldo for the insert
Good luck and patience needed

 

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cristos71

·Jul 12, 2022

It's definitely going to need at minimum a service, crown, hand relume and possibly plexi plus an optional bezel refurb to get it presentable.....and then it still won't be the most attractive due to the darkened dial lume tgat these 165.014's are really prone to.

So I'd estimate somewhere between €500 and€1.2K costs there depending who does what.

I was interested but found the seller not so communicative and that coupled with the now asking of 4K plus the work needed/end result ratio being on the low side my interest has cooled.

 

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jantjewgm

·Jul 12, 2022

I agree, a lot of work the get the what somewhat presentable. Also, the seller claims to be first owner and that the watch never had service or anything done, what is clearly not the case.

 

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cristos71

·Jul 12, 2022

jantjewgm

I agree, a lot of work the get the what somewhat presentable. Also, the seller claims to be first owner and that the watch never had service or anything done, what is clearly not the case.

Agreed. Also there's no bracelet, no box and no other papers coming with it. These would certainly have made the watch a much more attractive restoration prospect had there been something more than just a random jewellers receipt