SM300 165.014 restoration - before and after

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I thought I would make a thread to show the results of my foray into restoration, since it might be useful information for anyone else considering it. This is not something I normally do, but it was an appropriate opportunity to give it a try.

As background, I have been interested in the various SM300 references for some time, but never had the opportunity to handle any of them. At first, I was drawn to the the curved lug pieces (165.024/166.024), but over time I found I preferred the earlier straight lug cases. When I had the opportunity to make a trade for a 165.014, I decided to take the plunge, even though it wasn't a collector-quality piece, because I felt it would give me the chance to experience it in person and find out if I liked it.

As is commonly the case, the bezel inlay was completely obliterated, and the case/lugs had a lot of wear and tear, such that the chamfers were barely visible. The lume on the dial was thin, but still complete enough to be attractive to the naked eye, especially given that it had aged to an color that I particularly like, and was very well-matched to the hands. Otherwise, the watch was correct, and the movement was in good shape and running well. So overall, a decent "wearer" that a collector could appreciate as an honest and solid piece.



Well, long story short, I really liked the reference a lot, and began to toy with the idea of restoring it as a wearer, and perhaps also adding a better original straight-lug example at some point in the future. Since the watch really wasn't collector-quality in its prior state, I didn't really see much harm in a restoration. And I went into it eyes wide open with respect to the fact that it was not a logical decision from a financial perspective.

I found many references to a restoration specialist in Italy (Aldo), but also learned that he has a very long backlog. I also came across @of_golden_times on IG, who was also mentioned in a Fratellowatches blog post (https://www.fratellowatches.com/my-pub-find-omega-seamaster-300-ck2913-and-restoration-process/) as well as at least one OF thread (https://omegaforums.net/threads/165014-62-dial.94012/#post-1219579). Based on that thread, I reached out to @ndgal, who indicated that he had a positive first-hand experience with Rene. So I decided to give it a shot.

Rene indicated that he could completely restore the Bakelite bezel inlay, and also gave me the option to restore the case using his "lapidizing" machine, which he said would refinish the case to near-original condition with minimal loss of metal. He also warned me that not everyone wants an old watch with a case that is obviously restored. I gave it some thought, and ultimately my curiosity won out, so I asked him to restore the case as well. He originally indicated that it would take 2-3 weeks, but because of a problem with his machine, which needed a new part for a repair, it took somewhat longer. Nevertheless, the watch is now back in my hands, and the difference is really extraordinary, as shown in the photos below. One can obviously tell that the bezel and case are restored, but the quality of Rene's work is really excellent, and he takes a lot of pride in it.

That’s amazing. Gorgeous piece.
 
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Beautiful watch🥰 Rene is a master. He restored two bezels for my early Seamaster 300s. Excellent work!
 
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I've had a few bezels restored by Rene too, he's great to deal with. That case work is very impressive, those lugs!!
 
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Thanks for sharing this... though I appreciate vintage and patina sometimes it's too much. I like the after on yours.
 
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I thought I would make a thread to show the results of my foray into restoration, since it might be useful information for anyone else considering it. This is not something I normally do, but it was an appropriate opportunity to give it a try.

As background, I have been interested in the various SM300 references for some time, but never had the opportunity to handle any of them. At first, I was drawn to the the curved lug pieces (165.024/166.024), but over time I found I preferred the earlier straight lug cases. When I had the opportunity to make a trade for a 165.014, I decided to take the plunge, even though it wasn't a collector-quality piece, because I felt it would give me the chance to experience it in person and find out if I liked it.

As is commonly the case, the bezel inlay was completely obliterated, and the case/lugs had a lot of wear and tear, such that the chamfers were barely visible. The lume on the dial was thin, but still complete enough to be attractive to the naked eye, especially given that it had aged to an color that I particularly like, and was very well-matched to the hands. Otherwise, the watch was correct, and the movement was in good shape and running well. So overall, a decent "wearer" that a collector could appreciate as an honest and solid piece.



Well, long story short, I really liked the reference a lot, and began to toy with the idea of restoring it as a wearer, and perhaps also adding a better original straight-lug example at some point in the future. Since the watch really wasn't collector-quality in its prior state, I didn't really see much harm in a restoration. And I went into it eyes wide open with respect to the fact that it was not a logical decision from a financial perspective.

I found many references to a restoration specialist in Italy (Aldo), but also learned that he has a very long backlog. I also came across @of_golden_times on IG, who was also mentioned in a Fratellowatches blog post (https://www.fratellowatches.com/my-pub-find-omega-seamaster-300-ck2913-and-restoration-process/) as well as at least one OF thread (https://omegaforums.net/threads/165014-62-dial.94012/#post-1219579). Based on that thread, I reached out to @ndgal, who indicated that he had a positive first-hand experience with Rene. So I decided to give it a shot.

Rene indicated that he could completely restore the Bakelite bezel inlay, and also gave me the option to restore the case using his "lapidizing" machine, which he said would refinish the case to near-original condition with minimal loss of metal. He also warned me that not everyone wants an old watch with a case that is obviously restored. I gave it some thought, and ultimately my curiosity won out, so I asked him to restore the case as well. He originally indicated that it would take 2-3 weeks, but because of a problem with his machine, which needed a new part for a repair, it took somewhat longer. Nevertheless, the watch is now back in my hands, and the difference is really extraordinary, as shown in the photos below. One can obviously tell that the bezel and case are restored, but the quality of Rene's work is really excellent, and he takes a lot of pride in it.

I thought I would make a thread to show the results of my foray into restoration, since it might be useful information for anyone else considering it. This is not something I normally do, but it was an appropriate opportunity to give it a try.

As background, I have been interested in the various SM300 references for some time, but never had the opportunity to handle any of them. At first, I was drawn to the the curved lug pieces (165.024/166.024), but over time I found I preferred the earlier straight lug cases. When I had the opportunity to make a trade for a 165.014, I decided to take the plunge, even though it wasn't a collector-quality piece, because I felt it would give me the chance to experience it in person and find out if I liked it.

As is commonly the case, the bezel inlay was completely obliterated, and the case/lugs had a lot of wear and tear, such that the chamfers were barely visible. The lume on the dial was thin, but still complete enough to be attractive to the naked eye, especially given that it had aged to an color that I particularly like, and was very well-matched to the hands. Otherwise, the watch was correct, and the movement was in good shape and running well. So overall, a decent "wearer" that a collector could appreciate as an honest and solid piece.



Well, long story short, I really liked the reference a lot, and began to toy with the idea of restoring it as a wearer, and perhaps also adding a better original straight-lug example at some point in the future. Since the watch really wasn't collector-quality in its prior state, I didn't really see much harm in a restoration. And I went into it eyes wide open with respect to the fact that it was not a logical decision from a financial perspective.

I found many references to a restoration specialist in Italy (Aldo), but also learned that he has a very long backlog. I also came across @of_golden_times on IG, who was also mentioned in a Fratellowatches blog post (https://www.fratellowatches.com/my-pub-find-omega-seamaster-300-ck2913-and-restoration-process/) as well as at least one OF thread (https://omegaforums.net/threads/165014-62-dial.94012/#post-1219579). Based on that thread, I reached out to @ndgal, who indicated that he had a positive first-hand experience with Rene. So I decided to give it a shot.

Rene indicated that he could completely restore the Bakelite bezel inlay, and also gave me the option to restore the case using his "lapidizing" machine, which he said would refinish the case to near-original condition with minimal loss of metal. He also warned me that not everyone wants an old watch with a case that is obviously restored. I gave it some thought, and ultimately my curiosity won out, so I asked him to restore the case as well. He originally indicated that it would take 2-3 weeks, but because of a problem with his machine, which needed a new part for a repair, it took somewhat longer. Nevertheless, the watch is now back in my hands, and the difference is really extraordinary, as shown in the photos below. One can obviously tell that the bezel and case are restored, but the quality of Rene's work is really excellent, and he takes a lot of pride in it.

 
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I thought I would make a thread to show the results of my foray into restoration, since it might be useful information for anyone else considering it. This is not something I normally do, but it was an appropriate opportunity to give it a try.

As background, I have been interested in the various SM300 references for some time, but never had the opportunity to handle any of them. At first, I was drawn to the the curved lug pieces (165.024/166.024), but over time I found I preferred the earlier straight lug cases. When I had the opportunity to make a trade for a 165.014, I decided to take the plunge, even though it wasn't a collector-quality piece, because I felt it would give me the chance to experience it in person and find out if I liked it.

As is commonly the case, the bezel inlay was completely obliterated, and the case/lugs had a lot of wear and tear, such that the chamfers were barely visible. The lume on the dial was thin, but still complete enough to be attractive to the naked eye, especially given that it had aged to an color that I particularly like, and was very well-matched to the hands. Otherwise, the watch was correct, and the movement was in good shape and running well. So overall, a decent "wearer" that a collector could appreciate as an honest and solid piece.



Well, long story short, I really liked the reference a lot, and began to toy with the idea of restoring it as a wearer, and perhaps also adding a better original straight-lug example at some point in the future. Since the watch really wasn't collector-quality in its prior state, I didn't really see much harm in a restoration. And I went into it eyes wide open with respect to the fact that it was not a logical decision from a financial perspective.

I found many references to a restoration specialist in Italy (Aldo), but also learned that he has a very long backlog. I also came across @of_golden_times on IG, who was also mentioned in a Fratellowatches blog post (https://www.fratellowatches.com/my-pub-find-omega-seamaster-300-ck2913-and-restoration-process/) as well as at least one OF thread (https://omegaforums.net/threads/165014-62-dial.94012/#post-1219579). Based on that thread, I reached out to @ndgal, who indicated that he had a positive first-hand experience with Rene. So I decided to give it a shot.

Rene indicated that he could completely restore the Bakelite bezel inlay, and also gave me the option to restore the case using his "lapidizing" machine, which he said would refinish the case to near-original condition with minimal loss of metal. He also warned me that not everyone wants an old watch with a case that is obviously restored. I gave it some thought, and ultimately my curiosity won out, so I asked him to restore the case as well. He originally indicated that it would take 2-3 weeks, but because of a problem with his machine, which needed a new part for a repair, it took somewhat longer. Nevertheless, the watch is now back in my hands, and the difference is really extraordinary, as shown in the photos below. One can obviously tell that the bezel and case are restored, but the quality of Rene's work is really excellent, and he takes a lot of pride in it.

 
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Its a huge improvement over the "before treatment" state. It makes an excellent wearing watch which is what I like in a restored watches.

I am interested in the bezel restoration process. It looks like he may paint the reverse of most of the plastic insert leaving windows for the numbers. The numbers are then printed (white number on a black background), cut out and positioned in the windows (there is a slight colour variation around the shapes of the numbers compared to the main background black). How ever it is done, it worked really well and I bet in person it looks better than the photos.
 
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If you are serious, I think the best thing would be to send some photos to Rene via IG and he will get back to you quickly. He's quite responsive.
Could you give us a hint? More than 100? Less than an emergency vet.

Nah but seriously that is sweet. Came out really nice. I like that reference for no other reason than I think it looks great. Wear it in good health and imo whatever the cost it was money well spent, you will have that the rest of your life.
 
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Dan, I have the same watch that can use a little attention. Case and bracelet are tired. Dial needs a little love. Sending Rene a message now.

 
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That is one lovely watch Dan. Congrats and wear in good health. I’m also interested in how you approached successfully shipping your watch to Germany for service. It would be great to have your methodology for future reference.
 
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Dan, I have the same watch that can use a little attention. Case and bracelet are tired. Dial needs a little love. Sending Rene a message now.

That dial has some patina but it’s honest and the lume is aged beautifully— I can’t imagine you’d want to tamper with it unless of course someone with great talent can somehow refresh or clean the lume without damaging it. And even so I’m wondering if you shd do it.
 
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That is one lovely watch Dan. Congrats and wear in good health. I’m also interested in how you approached successfully shipping your watch to Germany for service. It would be great to have your methodology for future reference.
I used third party insurance attached to a DHL shipment. I purchased it at the shipping store. Customs was still a challenge, however, because the German customs agents did not want to accept the fact that it was being sent for repair and would be returned.
 
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I used third party insurance attached to a DHL shipment. I purchased it at the shipping store. Customs was still a challenge, however, because the German customs agents did not want to accept the fact that it was being sent for repair and would be returned.
Yep! Not surprised. I have found DHL to be pretty helpful on this side of the pond . How did you solve the problem?
 
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That dial has some patina but it’s honest and the lume is aged beautifully— I can’t imagine you’d want to tamper with it unless of course someone with great talent can somehow refresh or clean the lume without damaging it. And even so I’m wondering if you shd do it.
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Yep! Not surprised. I have found DHL to be pretty helpful on this side of the pond . How did you solve the problem?
We did not solve it, TBH.