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Show us your 2577 Seamaster (and a little introduction to the reference)
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Bill Sohne
··Bill @ ΩFHi @MtV
Great post , one of my favorite topics !
Latest 2577 / 2520 . W caliber 354 . with an uncommon below center pinion Seamaster”. As found in a coffee can by a buyer of storage units !
Good hunting
Bill
Great post , one of my favorite topics !
Latest 2577 / 2520 . W caliber 354 . with an uncommon below center pinion Seamaster”. As found in a coffee can by a buyer of storage units !
Good hunting
Bill
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TheGreekPhysique
·A somewhat recent acquisition. Acquired from a dear friend in a trade. A waffle dial drilled lug version 2577
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MtV
·Hi @MtV
Great post , one of my favorite topics !
Latest 2577 / 2520 . W caliber 354 . with an uncommon below center pinion Seamaster”. As found in a coffee can by a buyer of storage units !
Good hunting
Bill
Thanks Bill! Very interesting example, so they obviously did change solid gold cases to the beveled style, but very late indeed - your 14.3m serial is one of the last examples I’ve ever heard of!
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tamura
·My “bubble back”
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I believe you watch is like one of mine where the Seamaster was over-printed separately from the other printing. Can you see any difference in ink color using a loupe?
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minutenrohr
·Hi,
I've always had the impression that the "Seamaster" looks different from the rest of the print on the dial. I can't check at the moment because the watch lives in the bank safe.
Regards - HU
I've always had the impression that the "Seamaster" looks different from the rest of the print on the dial. I can't check at the moment because the watch lives in the bank safe.
Regards - HU
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minutenrohr
·This could be the sort of dial that later became a Seamasters. However, the watch has been sold a long time ago. The reference is 2517...
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minutenrohr
·Here is another 2577 (as well no longer in my possession), showing a probably later printed "Seamaster". Some Pics with uncorrect crown...
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SkunkPrince
·I wonder if there's a way to determine whether that overprinting is on top of the dial lacquer...
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·I wonder if there's a way to determine whether that overprinting is on top of the dial lacquer...
Might be visible under a microscope?
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mac_omega
·I wonder if there's a way to determine whether that overprinting is on top of the dial lacquer...
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·Then, there are a few oddities: The font of the numerals is, I believe, unique to this particular incarnation. The Omega logo is different from all other 2577s, in fact it might even be different to all other Omegas from the period. It’s not the regular flat feet one, but a much larger variant that we saw again in the 70s.
I’d like to prove myself wrong. 😁 Just stumbled upon this 2577 example - it’s in a rather sorry state with a completely worn-through case and a tired movement, but it’s the first example I’ve seen of those numerals and the weird Omega logo outside of golfball dial 2577s.
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Spruce
··Sunburst dial fanI’d like to prove myself wrong. 😁 Just stumbled upon this 2577 example - it’s in a rather sorry state with a completely worn-through case and a tired movement, but it’s the first example I’ve seen of those numerals and the weird Omega logo outside of golfball dial 2577s.
The dial’s nice and that probably justifies restoring the case and servicing the movement😀
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·The dial’s nice and that probably justifies restoring the case and servicing the movement😀
Saw daylight pictures of it and it’s actually unevenly dirty - looks like someone touched it with dirty fingers. 🙁
Another update though regarding the debate of the first Seamasters. So, the earliest 2577 serial I know of is one I currently own, and I’ve just received the extract. 11.57m serial, so according to the usual serial lists one would think it might actually be late 1948. Well, it’s not:
I would’ve expected 1949, not 1950 though. It’s 2 years off of the prediction, but we knew of course the serial lists were just rough estimated. Still, that adds to my suspicion that 2577s might actually have not been among the first produced Seamaster references. Learning something new every day. 😀
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorI would’ve expected 1949, not 1950 though. It’s 2 years off of the prediction, but we knew of course the serial lists were just rough estimated. Still, that adds to my suspicion that 2577s might actually have not been among the first produced Seamaster references.
Movements with serial numbers 11.57M may have built in late 1948 or 1949, sent to the Bureau Oficial for chronometer testing, then sent back to Omega for placement into an appropriate watch. All the above needed to occur before export. Things did not move at light-speed like they do now, and a delay of 1 to 2 years between manufacture and export doesn’t seem to be unusual.
I have a cal. 352 movement in a Ref. 2517 case, also with 11.57M serial number. Omega informed me that it was delivered to Italy in July 1950. Your watch seems to be dead-on consistent with mine.
Regarding the “Seamaster” designation, it was my understanding that screw case automatic watches could be marketed by Omega as “Seamaster” in any country, but not necessarily all of them, especially in the early years (1948-51). This may explain why the name was not put on dials.
Hope this helps,
Evan
